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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page 172 below relates to enquiries received during 2021Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,250 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Morris Cowley Bullnose Tourer
Another lovely photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Bullnose but why headlamps on wings? -- Identification features is the ’three light set’ (two headlamps and the rear lamp), with the with small headlamps being mounted on the wings. As this configuration was manufactured for only two years, (1922/23), this is a cca 1923 Morris Continental Cowley Bullnose Tourer.  'Bullnose’ not because 'bull’ but from rounded nose like ‘bullet’.

1923 Morris Continental Cowley Bullnose Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 Sunbeam Model 9A 600cc
Our SVVS Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) received this photo of a motorcycle and wondered what it was -- Chas moody advises Sunbeam started making bicycles in 1871, motorcycles in 1912. First was a 350cc, range of 500cc singles and V-twins. New model numbering introduced 1924 ; Models 1 through 11. This is acca 1932 Sunbeam Model 9a 600cc. Became Associated Motor Cycles in 1937; then, BSA 1943-56 with S big tyre range, scooters 1959-64, and British Seagull noutboards in 1931.

1932 Sunbeam Model 9A 600cc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1910 Briton 14HP Two-Seat Tourer
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum by Alsance with no info and commented on by Mark Dawber as Lincoln 1910.-- BE 785 is Lindsey County Council of around 1910. Made in Wolverhampton by the Star company subsidiary called Briton Motor Co, making cars badged as Britons, and also took over making Starling and Stuart. The first two Britons were a 2282 cc 12 hp twin and a 2413 cc 14 hp four. The car in the picture appears to a 4 cylinder c1910 Briton 14HP Two-Seat Tourer. 

c1910 Briton 14HP Two-Seat Toure

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Rover 8 Fixed-Head Coupe 
Interesting purchased photo by Martin Woodrow (UK) marked "Dad's motor car. Beryl and a friend. June 1930". Suggested as Morris Cowley but those have a longer 'boot'.-- Repaired photo. Not Morris but series 2 cca 1923 Rover 8 Fixed-Head Coupe having a two cylinder horisontally opposed 1134cc air cooled engine, made in Solihull in Warwickshire by company who started making bicycles in 1885, motorcycles 1902, cars 1903. Cylinder heads in air cooling scoops on bonnet sides not visible. 

1923 Rover 8 Fixed-Head Coupe 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1917 Mathis 9'22 Tourer perhaps
Pär Sörliden (Sweden) believes the car  mentioned on Help Page 92 as a 1914 De Dion Bouton is actually a Mathis.  Swedish Air Force in Linköping had registered two Mathis 9'22 HP cars in 1916-17. -- This photo of a  E296 and was a similar  Mathis registered July 1917. Some of our experts are puzzled by this car and wander if it had perhaps been bodied  by a Swedish company. I remain confused by the thought of the car on HP 92 being a Mathis so would welcome any helpful comments.

Probably 1914 De Dion Bouton Tourer

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Triumph 350 3SE Motorcycle
 Puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) questioning London 1968 registration as advised on another website? -- Our Tony Oakes advised PMP registrations date from 1939 and used by the War Department. Further research by our Chas Moody advises these were issued to WReNS Women Motorcycle Dispatch Riders, re-formed in 1939 by Admiralty and Royal Navy from women with motorcycle experience. Chas advises this is a c1939 Triumph 3SE 350cc Motorcycle.

1939 Triumph 350 3SE Moto

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1912 Zedel 12 HP Tourer
Lovely photo received from Joanna Moore (UK) of great-grandfather in 1913. The baby was her Grandmother, not shown but brother & sister are. Joanna visited Brooklands in a Napier tourer similar to this car? -- Not English but French. Photo unclear but looks round rad top slightly elevated, straight sides to the bonnet, with a draw handle grip. Two of our experts believe this is c1912 Zedel 12HP Tourer from company originally the first Swiss motorcycle engine maker, - which later French.

c1912 Zedel 12 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1932 SS1 Fixed Head Coupe
Puzzling photo received from David Lawson (UK)
tearing his hair out trying to identify this car in Sutherland before WW2. Father raced a Delage at Brooklands  late 30s. Is this the Delage? Not French but English. Our Tony Oakes advises equally famous racing pedigree, but not until later. This is cca 1932 SS1 Fixed Head Coupe by Swallow, £310. Later Jaguar. Had a 15HP 6 cylinder engine 2054cc made by Standard who also supplied the underslung chassis. More show than go!

c1932 SS1 Fixed Head Coupe by Swallow

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1953 Ford Consul Mk1 Saloon
Interesting photo from Ian Elliott (Eire) current owner and renovator of Corravahan House, Co. Cavan on the border with Northern Ireland. Can we confirm identification of this as a 1951-56 Ford Consul?  -- Relatively difficult to distinguish the Consul and the Zephyr from the side as only difference is 4" on length of front wing. Nevertheless, from the chrome strip and shortness of the wing we are relatively sure this is a cca 1953 Ford Consul Mk1 Saloon, 228,000 of which were made between 1951'6.

c1953 Ford Consul Mk1 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1966 Ford Zephyr Mk3 Saloon
Interesting photo from Ian Elliott (Eire) current owner and renovator of Corravahan House, Co. Cavan on the border with Northern Ireland. Car by Fannin Shop looks like a Ford Zephyr Mk 3? Sisters Leslie had two drivers, Harry and Henry in the 1960s. -- The registration is " EID 688", so it is the local council of Cavan. Indeed, a late Mk 3 car which seems to have Mk2 overriders on both pictures. Coincidence, or suggesting it may well be same car. White front indicator lens.  Lovely thatched shop.

1966 Ford Zephyr Mk3 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Campion 770cc V Twin
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for comments. --The bike is cca 1916 Campion 770cc V Twin from Nottingham, England, but not number, and  no sidecar. It would have been very unstable and dangerous to drive in any crosswinds and drag. Gas bag was made from balloon fabric, with a metal conical front and frame, to prevent compression. Suggested suitable for the Ambulance service. Not clear if more than one was built

Coal Gas powered 1916 Campion 770cc V Twin

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Mabeco 746cc V Twin
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from an AACA forum posting asking for identification. -- Unusual German motorcycle from a Berlin Manufacturer operating 1922-28 initially as Max Bernhardt & co with a 598cc and later as Mabeco Werke. Bikes were look-alikes for Indian and they sued when bikes became red. This is later cca 1926 Mabeco 746cc V Twin Sports. They were also building racicing motorcyclkes with great sucess. Later licenced Garelli Twingle.

1926 Mabeco 746cc V Twin

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Neville 'More Room' Steering
While searching the internet during identifications we often come across One such is the cca1916 Fat Man adjustable steering wheel -- This slide-up wheel was invented by A.G. Neville, of West Virginia to assist in ingress and egress from vehicles such as the Model T Ford with high non-adjustable seats. Other similar devices had wheel tilted either up or down, and/or hinged out of the way. Later developments had the whole steering column swing away outwards when door was opened.

1916 Neville 'More Room' Steering

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1946 Ford Super De Luxe Sedan
Interesting photo from Ian Elliott (Eire) current owner and renovator of Corravahan House, Ballyhaise, Co. Cavan on the border with Northern Ireland. Car by Fannin's Shop looks like a 1950s Vauxhall Wyvern? -- The House is 1841 previous Rectory and car is American. Reg 'ID' is Cavan but no dating records; white background suggests plate renewed after 1969. Revamped 1942 model in 46 with new grille and sidelights on bonnet are distinctive of 1946 Ford Super De Luxe, made one year.

1946 Ford Super De Luxe Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1960s Bulgarian Numberplate
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from an AACA forum posting asking for identification. Is it British? -- British plates were never oval. Americans used enameled plates. Has a single star; top left; Texas? - However more research advises 1960s Bulgarian. BP is Vratsa Province by Danube on northern border with Romania. Bulgaria uses the Cyrillic alphabet,  B is the letter V of Vratsa, and P is the letter R, Vratsa Province; Oblast Vraca, former name Vraca Okrug. 

1960s Bulgarian Numberplate

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1900 Renault Model C Pickup
While researching the 1911 Rochet Scneider lower down we came across an early 1901 cycling race support vehicle on a website, where car had not been identified. A number of manufacturers used side mounted radiators but this seemed to have an offset starting handle slot, which suggests it has a single cylinder De Dion Bouton engine under the bonnet. Monsieur Oury is driving a Monsieur Garin in a cca 1900 Renault Model C where a pickup back replaces rear Tonneao body. 

1900 Renault Model C Pickup

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 Rochet Schneider Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Photo marked Spain 1925. The 19th Tour De France  followed full outer borders of whole France. This is the Pyrenees on the Spanish border and apparently features Nicolas Frantz, Jules Buysse and August Verdyck at the l'Aubisque pass. Known photo but the unknown car: from the shape of scuttle is a cca 1911 Rochet Schneider Torpedo, probably the 12 CV.  Faint RS logo.

1911 Rochet Schneider Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Audi 18’45 Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Photo marked Cars in NZ WW1? The numberplates according to our German contributor seem not to be early German, (see below). The car on right has oval badge proud off a veed header tank, small flat radiator, high gas lights on double stalks with a high headlamp link bar, adds up to a cca 1916 Audi 18’45 Tourer. Audi was formed 1910, became Auto Union in 1932.

1916 Audi 18’45 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Wanderer Pupchen W3 Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for ID. –- Our Moscow military uniforms expert thinks the uniforms are German WW1 "Marinekorps Flandern", Marine Infantry servicemen who used 'M' numbers (see below). Car on left has widow's peak radiator header tank and is wide enough for only a single person which suggest a cca 1914 Wanderer Pupchen W3 Tourer Tandem seating/doors 1286cc made in Chemnitz. Merged with Auto Union 1932.

1914 Wanderer Pupchen W3 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Opel 8'25 Dopple Phaeton
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for ID. "Marinekorps Flandern" were the Naval Corps of Imperial German Kriegsmarine 1914-18 operating in coastal area of Flanders: canals, bridges, locks and ports (Belgium/Holland). Car at at back in middle has most of the identifiable bits hidden but we think from the thin edged veed radiatior and distinctive drooping sides windscreen is probably a cca 1915 Opel 8'25 Dopple Phaeton Tourer.

1915 Opel 8'25 Dopple Phaeton
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