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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

DEEPLY SAD ANNOUNCEMENT: JOHN  WARBURTON
It is with great personal sadness that I have to advise that our very good friend John Warburton has died. John has been a stalwart and almost daily advisor to the SVVS Help Pages since 2000. John was the 'Wise Sage' mentioned in many identifications for some 20 years since. He was an auto-historian extraordinaire having been on the Veteran Car Club (London-Brighton Run) car dating committee and the Editor of various magazines including the venerable Vintage Sports Car Club Bulletin. He has been a regular contributor of learned articles on largely obscure car makes to The Automobile
. Apart from his encyclopedic knowledge of cars, he was a world authority on Star cars, one of which he was an owner.  We who had the privilege to know him will miss him deeply.  A widower, he leaves partner Julie, children and grandchildren.

JOHN  WARBURTON

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1880 Vasescu Steamer
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) wondered if we knew what this one was, got from a friend abroad? --  Tony's daughter-in-law to-be is Romanian !  Dumitru Vasescu was the first Romanian to build a car and according to local lore in 1880, but while a student in Paris. It was coal fired steamer with tubular boiler and water tank under seat. Had metal wire wheels at front, wood rimmed steel spoked rears, all solid rubber tyres, wood block brakes. Dating disputed, and possibly wrong picture.

Probably cca 1880 Vasescu Steamer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1901 Decauville 10HP Tonneau
Lovely photo received from John Thompson (UK) showing Florence Moon, great grandfather's Aunt,  reputedly 'first female driver in London' married twice and lived London, then Bexley. --  Registration was A1642 issued by London CC in early 1904 so possibly while married to John Bush, pre divorce in 1908. The car was built pre-registrations and is a c1901 Decauville 10HP Tonneau. This is a 'VCC Dated' car which has survived,  and has been seen on a relatively recent "Brighton Run" !

1901 Decauville 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Darracq 8HP Tonneau
Another lovely photo from Andrew Moore (UK) taken in 1916 in Lincolnshir, England. A gentleman from the village was asking if anybody could identify it? --  The picture of the car is quite small but is just possible to make out the registration as DO 23 which is Holland County Council, now Lincolnshire. Registrations started 12/03 so this would be 1904. The car is a British but Paris built Darracq and has been confirmed by our Ariejan Bos as cca 1904 Darracq Tonneau, 1 cyl. 8HP.

1903 Darracq 8HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Vauxhall 12-14 Touring Car
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted
by John Davis apparently taken in UK. Is this a Vauxhall on the roads of Norfolk?   --  Registration seems Hertford CC 1906. This is quite a big car made by an ironworks originally based in Vauxhall Road, London. This model was introduced at Olympia in 1905, this being one of the later 12 made after the move to Luton and is a  cca 1906 Vauxhall 12-14HP Tourer, with a three cylinder engine of 2,445 cc.

1906 Vauxhall 12-14 Touring Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Wolseley 10HP Tonneau
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted
by John Davis apparently taken in UK. Is this a Wolseley and which model?   --  Registrationis C 424 is West Riding Yorkshire c1906. Indeed a Wolseley and it is a medium sized car for the age. Wolseley made quite a range of cars in the 1901-1906 era, when Wolseley was biggest UK car manufacturer. They are a little difficult to tell apart, but from chainguard is a cca 1906 Wolseley 10HP Tonneau. 

1906 Wolseley 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Darracq 20'32 Tourer
Lovely photo of relatively unusual car from  Sally Unwin (UK)  showing her GG Grandparents in their new car in the 1900s in Barton on Humber. Can we identify car and colour? --  No on the colour but ladies' dustcoats were similar to 'Columbo's mac', so relatively light. Reg BE ##1 is Lindsey CC. Curious parallel-strip-edged radiator. Our Messrs Bos and Warburton have determined this is the bigger Anglo-French  cca 1906 Darracq 20'32 Tourer, four cylinder, aimed at American market.

1906 Darracq 20'32 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Talbot 24HP Tourer
One of a number of interesting period photos posted on the John Davies  (UK) asking for identification and suggesting it may perhaps be a Brasier?
  -- From the flat top of the bonnet, did not seem a Brasier to me. Looked much more like a Talbot but as it was a chain drive, perhaps not. Our Ariejan Bos advises probably one of the first real Talbots in 1906. Chain drive was used only on the larger models. This one does not look their biggest 35HP,  so is probably a  cca 1906 Talbot 24HP Tourer

1906 Talbot 24HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Gladiator 12'14 Limousine
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted
by Tomoyuki Jnbo apparently taken in Osaka in 1920. Radiator is not one he recognised. The car is probably about 1910--  Very unusual Anglo-French car so not a common radiator. This is a cca 1907 Gladiator 12'14 Open Drive Limousine, or the bigger 20'30, Originated as Cycles et Automobiles Gladiator in Paris, then Gladiator-Clement, involved Darracq and taken over 1909 by Vinot & Deguingand.

1907 Gladiator 12'14 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 De Dion Bouton BG Tonneau
Cinema screen grab taken from a French-Canadian-German television serieses "Les Faucheurs de marguerites" (The daisy Reapers) made in 1974, and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB? Early aviation through a fictitious aviator.   --  This is a French car made in Paris by company that started out making early steamers and became biggest world car manufacturer, but was gone by 1932. This is a 1 cylinder 942cc c1908 De Dion Bouton BG 8HP Tonneau,  one of seven models offered.

1908 De Dion Bouton BG Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Straker Squire 15'20 Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted
by John Davis apparently taken in Norfolk Uk  but no other information. -- Shame registration not visible to help in dating. Very interesting car made by man who started in steam commercials in 1893. Imported petrol cars from Continent and made own Schamrock car in 1907. This is a cca 1912 Straker Squire 15'20 HP Two-Seater. Made aero engines in Bristol in WW1, and stopped making cars 1926.

1912 Straker Squire 15'20 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly c1912 Opel Limousine
Puzzling photo received from Lars Magnuson (Sweden) trying to identify car driven by
grandfather Johan Edward Magnuson. Family says one of first Swedish driving licenses.  Photo likely Stockholm, pre 1925. -- Ariejan Bos thinks it is a cca 1912 Opel Open Drive Limousine but I am finding some inconsistencies. Bonnet is round with very high hinge, hoops, and separate opening lid.  Detachable rims could be Continental. Differing hubs. Seems to have a taximeter in front of the driver. HELP!

Possibly c1912 Opel Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Siddeley Deasy 18'24 Tourer
Batch of interesting photos received from  Philip Perry (UK) all featuring his late grandfather who was liveried attendant and chauffeur to landed gentry in Worcestershire. On this photo he is in a possibly Siddeley-Deasy, which on one occasion he drove up to Inverness in 24 hours!  --  No registration visible for correct dating but, quite correct, this seems a cca 1913 Siddeley Deasy 18'24 Tourer, or the perhaps the 24'30. Was Deasy Motor Co, became Armstrong Siddeley 1919 to 1960. 

1913 Siddeley Deasy 18'24 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Batch of interesting photos received from  Philip Perry (UK) all featuring his late grandfather who was liveried attendant and chauffeur to landed gentry in Worcestershire. On this photo he is one of the four liveried attendants by a Rolls Royce, which may be a Silver Ghost with bodywork by Barker Coachbuilders.  --  Quite correct, if reg is E 1791, then is a Silver Ghost chassis 2515 of July 1913, fitted with a Barker landaulette body, sold via Midland agent to C A Palmer of Birmingham.

1913 Rolls Roce Silver Ghost

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Franklin Model G Touring
Unusual but lovely period photo posted on the Don Dunne
website asking for identification and year of car shown. Is it a Renault?  -- The coal scuttle bonnet is indeed reminiscent of the French Renault but it has a grille on the facia. It also has a 1913 Oregon plate suggesting USA location, - and car. Franklin made air cooled cars with circular radiators until 1911. This one is a cca 1913 Franklin Model G Touring Car, with four cylinder 25HP 3.2L air cooled engine and 3 gears. Closed in 1934.

1913 Franklin Model G Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Swift 15.9HP Two-Seater
Batch of interesting photos received from  Philip Perry (UK) all featuring his late grandfather who was liveried attendant and chauffeur to landed gentry in Worcestershire. On this photo his whole family is enjoying an outing in one of the 'bosses' cars? --  Thanks to the joint efforts of Messrs Bos and Warburton this has been identified as bigger cca 1915 Swift 15.9HP Two-Seater introduced October 1913. Noticable is the fuel filler tight up to the  windscreen. Curious number of louvres?

1915 Swift 15.9HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Saxon S2 Schutte Scout Car
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle from a Lancaster UK page but relating to Lancaster Pa in the US.  --  Car is interesting because it is a specially bodied cca 1915 Saxon S2 with Schutte Scout Car Body on Saxin Chassis. Charles Schutte were a specialised coachbuilder based in Lanchester who bodied some of the best cars including Rolls and Cadillac. Photo shows a "Scout Car" at presentation to soldier contributing most to recruitment to US Forces.

1915 Saxon S2 Schutte Scout Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Opel 5'14 'Puppchen' Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
commented on by Michael Schlenger, asking for identification.
  --  According to the letter code on the bonnet,  "KK" stands for "Kraftfahrer-Korps" which was a a unit of the German military in WW1 consisting of car drivers. The car on the left is from the then Germany's largest car manufacturer who arenow PSA Peugeot-Citroen. This is a cca 1916 Opel 5'14 'Puppchen' 1.5 Tourer, third series with wire wheels.

1916 Opel 5'14 Puppchen Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918 Oldsmobile Model 45A Touring
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana which they have not been able to identify. --  Lovewly photo Radiator and emblem badge say Oldsmobile, various versions of round top trad from, 1912 to 1923. Main identification features are swage line on the mudguards witch are wide, height of headlamps which is quite low, and lack of sidelights. This seem to be the 8 cylinder cca 1918 Oldsmobile Model 45A Five Passenger Touring.

1918 Oldsmobile Model 45A Touri

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Spyker C1 13'39HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
commented on by Michael Schlenger, asking for identification.
  --  According to the letter code on the bonnet,  "KK" stands for "Kraftfahrer-Korps" which was a a unit of the German military in WW1 consisting of car drivers. The car on the right with the unusual radiator is from Holland and is a cca 1919 Spyker C1 13'39 HP Tourer 3.6-litre, four-cylinder engine, heavily underpowered and lasted only two years.

1919 Spyker C1 13'39HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 GN Vitesse Two-Seater
Lovely colour photo received from a long-time Trojan owner and ex-SVVS Member (now 94!!) Don Williams (UK) who was interested to know the car make, which was photographed in Baxterdale, Whitby, Yorkshire in 1923.  --  Registration HD 1267 was Dewsbury CBC in West Yorkshire but no dating info available pre 1929 (when HD 3784). This has cylinder heads protruding through sides of bonnet and appears to have staggered seats so would be a cca 1921 GN Vitesse Two-Seater 

1921 GN Vitesse Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Overland Model 4 Touring
One of two interesting period photo received from Lars Magnuson (Sweden) who is trying to identify a family car. P
eople are his mother's parents. Mr Winback bought this car March 1921, new as he is the first on the registration document which said car was a 1920 Overland 4 20/25hp. -- 'Standard Catalogue' advises that the 20'25 was made in 1916 but that had a rounded radiator. This one is more rectangular of 1920 shape so would be the 1921 Overland Model 4 Touring, 4 cyl 27HP.

1921 Overland Model 4 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Buick Standard Six Coach
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) from Montana which they have not been able to identify. --  Not much to go on on this photograph taken outside a house number 702 in a unnamed street in relative countryside. Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a
Detroit built Buick from their new range of slightly lower priced cars with a new 6 cylinder engine and a slightly longer wheelbase. This two door sedan would therefore be 1925 Buick Standard 6 Coach, Model 20.

1925 Buick Standard Six Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six
Another from a batch of interesting photos received from Mike Sanders (USA) eEspecially interested in dating this one - we think this is in Los Angeles - the street sign reads "W ADAMS". --  Indeed Los Ageles, the windmill was one of a number Van de Kamp's Dutch Bakery sites, this one in Beverley Hills. Part of another building remains at
Wilshire Blvd/Tower Drive and is occupied by Coffee Bean. Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a cca 1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six Four Door Sedan.

1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Railton Fairmile Drophead
Small faded photo received from Jeff Jacobs  (UK) showing father Jack who had started with a barrow WW2 at local market and finished with a chain of London car dealerships --  The is an interesting cca 1938 Railton Fairmile Drophead Coupe by Coachcraft. Based on the American Hudson 8 car, powered by 124BHP Hudson Straight 8 engine of 4303cc and a 3-Speed gearbox, built by Noel Macklin, late of Invicta,1933-40. Five saloons were built for London Police. Bought by Hudson post WW2.

1938 Railton Fairmile Drophead

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1949 Hotchkiss 864 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film "The Man from U.N.C.L.E". made in 2015,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB?   CIA and KGB work together to stop Criminal organization to build nuclear bomb. --  This seems to have puzzled a few people sugessting an Italian Alfa or similar. Actually we think it is French and is missing a round badge half way down the centre of the rad. We think this is most likely post WW2 Paris built cca 1949 Hotchkiss 864 Saloon. 

1949 Hotchkiss 864 Saloon
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