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Page 62 below relates to enquiries received during 2013Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Riley 12'18 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Eileen Stokes (UK). Eileen has no information or link with the photo except that she knows it was almost certainly taken in UK and is a postcard curiosity requiring identification.  -- Registration when magnified appears to be BJ 966 which is East Suffolk County Council, issued late 1910. Circular Radiator and small embossed badge identify it as a cca 1910 Riley 12'18 Tourer. Very interesting home made circular 'shock-absorber' on front springs.

1910 Riley 12'18 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Brennabor 12PS Torpedo
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a French film " Le plus vieux métier du monde" (The Oldest Profession) made in 1967 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is a series of sketches on prostitution through the ages, this part about Vienna.  --  Not much of this car is visible but the shape of the radiator with the makers logo and bonnet top flutes indicates it is a cca 1911 Brennabor.  Lack of louvers on the bonnet sides suggests probably a 12HP Torpedo.

1911 Brennabor 12PS Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly 1914 BSA 13.9 Tourer
Another photo from Tom Cosens (UK) who says they are postcard curiosities needing identification. This photo is a British .  -- OA 4271 is Birmingham CBC Feb 1913 to October 1915, so pre WW1. Difficult rear view photo with what seems to be a worm drive car with three-speed gearbox incorporated in the rear axle assembly. Lightweight wire wheels suggest a smaller car than the angle of photo suggests. One of our experts thinks this is a sleeve valve engined  cca 1914 13.9hp BSA.

Possibly 1914 BSA 13.9 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Briton 14/16 HP Tourer
Another photo from Tom Cosens (UK) who says they are postcard curiosities needing identification. This photo is a British postcard but no other information to help.  -- This has  a relatively distinctive radiator slightly bell shaped with a pronounced lip round the core and no badge, and a post 1911 AA badge. Made by the Star Engineering Co as an economy model this is a cca 1914 Briton 14/16 HP Tourer, four cylinder, under the name of the Briton Motor Co costing £225 basic, £263 de luxe.

1914 Briton 14'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Perry Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received from Eileen Stokes (UK). Eileen has no information or link with the photo except that she knows it was almost certainly taken in UK and is a postcard curiosity requiring identification.  -- No registration to help with dating but one of our experts advises this is a Birmingham built cca 1914 Perry Two-Seater. Designed by Cecil Bayliss (Bayliss-Thomas). Two models made; vertical twin 8hp pre WW1, and 11.9 four cylinder after.  Became 'Bean' in 1919.

1914 Perry 8HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Rover 8HP Two-Seater
Interesting photo received from John Smithson of Buckinghamshire (UK) trying to identify a car owned and driven by his mother who died at 98 some years ago. No idea what happened to the car which he thinks look like a Calthorpe on our site.  --  Same era, built in the same town of Birmingham, but this one in Tyseley and driven to Coventry to have the body fitted. Dummy radiator as was an air cooled horizontal twin 998 cc with side air scoops cca 1921 Rover 8HP  Two-Seater, costing then £180.

1921 Rover 8HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Sunbeam 20'60 3/4 Coupe
Very fuzzy creased photo received from Janis Marks (Canada) researching her father 92, and grandfather standing by his car in late 1920s in Manchester UK. Has not found anybody able to identify car. Sorry about poor photo. --  We have much repaired the missing creases, improved contrast and generally textured the photo to help in identification, and can advise that our experts say this is a cca 1924/5 Sunbeam 20/60  Three Quarter  2/3  Seat Coupe  with  a  Folding Head .

1924 Sunbeam 20'60 Three-Quarter Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Dodge Brothers Ser. 116 Touring
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Another car manufactured in Detroit America, by a couple of brothers who supplied parts to Oldsmobile and Ford, and started own car manufacture in 1914. This is a cca 1925 Dodge Brothers Series 116 Touring, probably the Special from the bumpers and having sidelights at  base of  windscreen.

1925 Dodge Series 116 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Peugeot 177M Cabriolet
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stutgart (Germany) from a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. He sent me a lovely book on German cars. Many thanks!! Raoul wondered if this is a Peugeot 190 5CV? --  Looks a little bit small for a 190 as the lady is relatively big but does not dwarf the car. It has the very peculiar front wheel hub. One of our experts confirmed this was cca 1926 Peugeot 177M with Factory Cabriolet Body.

1926 Peugeot 177M Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Lancia Lambda Torpedo
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Nice to see photo of a car from Romania that is not American! This car comes from Italy. Secondary louvers in the scuttle behind bonnet. Unusual in having a single piece windscreen and also having external door handles, suggesting this is cca 1926 Lancia Lambda Torpedo, possibly coachbuilt.

1926 Lancia Lambda Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Rugby Six Cabriolet
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Complicated as this American car could have had three names. Radiator is recognisable but having scuttle bracket mounted sidelights limits it to 1928/29. During this period it could have be a Star in US, Rugby in Europe & elsewhere, or in 1929 a  Durant. As Europe, probably cca 1928 Rugby Six Cabriolet.

1928 Rugby Six Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Buick Model 25 Sport Touring
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Fabulous picture of a car manufactured in America being pulled across a river in Romania on a cable ferry. Identification features are the rad shape, cap and badge, and the dating features are the bullet non-chromed headlights and Wolverine bumper.  This is a cca 1928 Buick Model 25 Sport Touring.

1928 Buick Model 25 Sport Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Whippet Model 96 Touring
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  This is a photo of a Chauffeur School.  --  Enlarging the photo shows this is in Cernauti which is in North East Romania and was the capital of Bukovina, now split between Romania and Ukraine. Some nasty things happened here during early years of soviet occupation. This is American cca 1928 Whippet Model 96 Touring

1928 Whippet Model 96 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Chrysler 62 Touring
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  This is a photo of a Chauffeur School.  --  Enlarging the photo shows this is in Cernauti which is in North East Romania and was the capital of Bukovina, now split between Romania and Ukraine. Some nasty things happened here during early years of soviet occupation. This car is an American cca 1928 Chrysler 62 Touring

1928 Chrysler 62 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Opel 4'20 Limousine
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  This is a photo of a Chauffeur School.  --  Enlarging the photo shows this is in Cernauti which is in North East Romania and was the capital of Bukovina, now split between Romania and Ukraine. Some nasty things happened here during early years of soviet occupation. The wheels date this a cca 1929 Opel 4'20 Limousine

1929 Opel 4'20 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps 1929 Maybach Zeppelin
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  -- Blurry photo with no clear identification features visible. Not Amnerican, but European. This would seem to be a 'state limousine' which has a square late20's body. Our best guess is that it is German, unlikely Mercedes Benz, so from twin horns may be cca 1929 Maybach Zeppelin Pullman Limousine. 

Perhaps 1929 Maybach Zeppelin Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Nash Model 421 Phaeton
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Another car manufactured in America, this one made in Kinosha, Winsconsin, by company which started by buying Jeffery and badge engineering. This is a cca 1929 Nash Model 421 Phaeton dated by the new type logo, bowl type headlamps, wide stripe body molding, and by double bar bumpers. 

1929 Nash Model 421 Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Buick Model 67 Sedan
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Another car manufactured in America, this one in Flint Michigan. Fitted with the short stumpy sun visor, chromed upper link between the headlamps, optional wire wheels much favoured in Europe, and telltale " B" script logo on wheel hubs, this is a  cca 1931 Buick Model 67 Four Door Sedan.

1931 Buick Model 67 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Ford Model 40 DeLuxe Coupe
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Puzzling picture of a car manufactured in Detroit, America with some inconsistent features. The car is a cca 1934 Ford Model 40 DeLuxe Coupe from the straight V grille, straight louvers, dipped bumper & twin horns, but standard car had small lamps, external door hinges & small wire wheels.

1934 Ford Model 40 DeLuxe Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps 1934 Ford V8 Speedster
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  -- Quite honestly NO! Many American and European manufactures made cars of this style. It has Duesenburg/Auburn front wings, also on Alfas and Talbot-Lagos etc. The logo is Ford V8 early 30s, so could be a cca 1934 Ford Special. Ford US made  Model 40 Special Speedster  with a body vaguely similar. 

Perhaps 1934 Ford V8 Speedster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Hudson  GH Two-Door Convertible
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a German film " Verräter " (Traitor)  made in 1936 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is a Nazi Propaganda film rated as of 'exemplary educational benefit' by the Hitler regime. All about spies trying to penetrate the German armaments industry.   --  The car is American, built in Detroit, and from the grille mesh with horizontal inserts can be dated as cca1935 Hudson Series GH Two Door Convertible

1935 Hudson  GH Two-Door Convertible

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Morris 10'4 Saloon Series II
Slightly fuzzy photo received from Brian Edgecombe, Sydney (Australia) researching family photos from the UK and believes dates can be placed on them from the vehicles in them. He found us on Google. --  This one is relatively easy to date car from the registration CWL 4## which was issued by Oxford County Borough Council in about February 1936. The car is a cca 1936 Morris 10'4 Saloon Series II. Looks relatively newish.  Dating the car,  does not necessarily  date the photo!

1936 Morris 10'4 Saloon Series II

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Wolseley 14/56 Saloon
Couple of lovely photos received from Mark Jones from Warilla NSW (Australia) trying to identify father's Wolseley they owned when they lived in England in the 60s in Easebourne near Midhurst. Mark was born in Haslemere. --  Registration is London County Council, issued in November 1937. The car had built-in hydraulic jacks and, as it has four horizontal bonnet louvers, this indicates that this is a well cared-for Series II 1937 Wolseley 14/56 Saloon; a de-luxe version of a Morris 14.

1937 Wolseley 14/56 S2 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1959 SEAT 1400B Saloon
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a Spanish film "  No dispares contra mí " (Dont shoot me !)  made in 1961 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about a young law student involved in a series of small crimes that led him to discover the corpse of the husband of his French friend Lucile in the trunk of the car.  --  Spanish made car, based on a popular Italian car, introduced 1953, this is a post 1956 mark III  cca 1959 SEAT 1400B Saloon,  made until 1964.

1959 SEAT 1400B Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably mid-1940s Scene
Another photo received from Brian Edgecombe, Sydney (Australia) researching family photos from the UK and believes dates can be placed on them from the vehicles in them. He found us on Google. --  The car is too small to recognise positively but is of the WW2 period (1939-47). Hillman, Austin etc. Not many cars on the road ! The shops in the background are showing ads for Vitbie bread and Bovril meat extract.  Not much of  the bicycle  or  wicker pannier basket  visible to aid dating.

Mid 1940s Scene
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