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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1898 Orient Express 4 HP Victoria
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for identification.  This one was labeled 'Not a Benz' -- We had a similar car recently except that this one is a bit older evidenced by the carriage wheels and the steering handle. German car built by Bergmann Industriewerken at Gaggenau Baden and renamed as cca 1899 Orient Express 4HP Phaeton, sold in the UK by the Automobile Association. This is cca 1898 Orient Express 4 HP Victoria Vis-a-Vis, 4HP single cyl.

1998 Orient Express 4 HP Victoria

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1897 Panhard Levassor Dog Cart
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is cca 1897 Panhard & Levassor Charrette Anglaise, an English Dog Cart 6CV. 

1897 Panhard Levassor Dog Cart

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1898 Mors Voiture Fermee
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1898 Mors Voiture Fermee, probably 6HP. Forerunner of a  'saloon car'.

1898 Mors Voiture Fermee

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1899 Delahaye Phaeton Spider
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is cca 1899 Delahaye Phaeton Spider, and we think a twin cylinder 6HP type 2.

1899 Delahaye Phaeton Spider

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Renault Type R Coupe de Ville
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1903 Renault Type R Coupe de Ville, 860 cc 7 CV, often as Paris taxis.

1903 Renault Type R Coupe de Ville

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Mors 15HP Demi-Fermee
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our help in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1903 Mors 15HP Demi-Fermee, also called a Covered Double Phaeton.

1903 Mors 15HP Demi-Fermee

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Panhard Levassor Tonneau
Fabulous bunch of photographs received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) which come from a book he recently purchased called " l'Automobile"  by Henri Farman in 1904, which is in French and largely deals with the evolution and body styles of automobiles of the time. Some of the vehicles shown he did not recognise and requested our assistance in identification. -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1903 Panhard & Levassor Rear Entrance Tonneau, probably a 7CV 2cyl.

1903 Panhard Levassor Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Motobloc RE Tonneau
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for identification.  This one was labeled 'Chesham, Bucks' -- Registration BH 925 is Buckingham County Council of approx 1908. I thought perhaps a Gammage but Ariejan Bos advised it was a real rarity, From the continuously curved front axle and rad filler cap, dumb irons etc it is a cca 1903 Motobloc Rear Entrance Tonneau. It had a transverse in-unit engine/gearbox  across the chassis. Closed up 1930.

1903 Motobloc RE Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Panhard & Levassor Tourer
Our Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found on a Facebook page where the identification of the vehicle is required. -- This seems to be from a series of photographs showing personnel from the Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. These shows were mainly in late 1870s and were largely finished by time of this photo. Last shows were a tour to France and Europe in 1906, so probably on return. Unusual shape of radiator which points to a French cca 1905 Panhard & Levassor Type Q 50 CV Tourer.

1905 Panhard & Levassor Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1906/7 Delaunay Belleville
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a Facebook page on ANZAC Day, NZ equivalent of the Armistice Day, showing the NZ Forces in Europe. Interest is in the round radiator vehicle between the people.-- Eccentric circles with narrower side uppermost and quite a wide distance at the bottom. Out of all contenders only the French cca 1906/7 Delaunay Belleville meets the details,  but it is very difficult to make out the model or body type.

c1906/7 Delaunay Belleville

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Rover 8HP Roadster
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for identification.  This one was also labeled 'Chesham, Buckinghamshire.'  Suggested car could be a Standard.-- Registration BH 729 is Buckingham County Council of approx 1907. Car is indeed British but had the hump on the rad for extremely short time, So ignore hump, transverse front spring, and it suddenly becomes a cca 1907 Rover 8HP Roadster. They had quite few changes of rad in early period!

1907 Rover 8HP Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Panhard & Levassor Tourer
Our Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found on a Facebook page where the identification of the vehicle is required. -- This seems to be from a series of photographs showing personnel from the Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. These shows were mainly in late 1870s and were largely finished by time of this photo. Last shows were a tour to France and Europe in 1906, so probably on return. From the painted rad surround this is a French cca 1909 Panhard & Levassor Tourer, possibly the 35CV.

1909 Panhard & Levassor Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Pearce Arrow Touring
Our Mark Dawber (New Zealand) found on a Facebook page where the identification of the vehicle is required. -- This seems to be from a series of photographs showing personnel from the Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. William Cody had been a soldier and buffalo hunter who had got his name by killing 4,000 buffalo in a year for the Kansas Pacific Railroad. He later became showman in USA with his Wild West Show. Car is American aptly a cca 1909 Pierce Arrow Model UU 36HP Touring.

1909 Pierce Arrow Model Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Calthorpe Tourer
Another very puzzling period photo found on a Facebook page while researching other items and saved for future identification. Believed photographed in Ireland. -- Unusual as it has a rounded radiator but with a raised heder tank. Very few cars with that  feature. Quite a big car with no scuttle and not with wire wheels so relatively early and before 1911, From a company making cars and motorcycles in Birmingham, this is a cca 1909 Calthorpe Tourer, either the 15 or 20 HP.

1909 Calthorpe Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 London Taxi Cab
Photo-of-a-photo taken through glass sent to us by Terry Beckwith (UK) asking us to put a date on this LCC registered Taxi, His grandfather was a handsome cab driver around turn of 20th century. -- Dating is easy; LD 6847 was issued by London County Council about December 1909. We have done much to rebuild the photo but identifying the make for definite is probably unlikely. Vehicle with very steep bonnet, so only few makes and most likely a cca 1909 Humber 10'12 Landaulette Taxi. 

1909 London Taxi Cab,possibly Humber

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Hupmobile Model 20 Touring
Another very puzzling photo found unidentified while researching on Internet and saved for future identification.  -- This car is American and has the sharply sloping angular bonnet, very tall water filler cap  and has gas headlamps, which helps to identify it. Made in Detroit, Michigan, and for dating purposes the sloping bonnet limits it to 1912-13. This is cca 1912 Hupmobile Model 20 Runabout by Hupp Motor Co founded in 1908 by Robert Hupp, ex of Oldsmobile and Ford. Hupp left to form RCH.

1912 Hupmobile Model 20 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 ZIP Two-Seater Cyclecar
Very puzzling Kristinehamn town archives photo received from Pär Sörliden (Sweden) looking for make. We could not identify but he eventually did !!   -- This is an early American cca 1913 Zip Two-Seater Cyclear built by Zip in Davenport, Iowa. It is powered by a crosswise air cooled Vee two cylinder 10'14HP  Mac Engine. Friction drive transmission under seats to prop/diff and then belt drive on rear wheels, having breakdruns. 6Volt, 20/25mph,  35/45mpg, cost $395.

1913 ZIP Two-Seater Cyclecar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 BSA 13.9HP Tourer
Relatively faint spotted photo sent to us by Paul Sutton-King (UK) which we have had a go at improving to help in Identification. Distinctive radiator badge and registration Dudley perhaps? -- Reg HA371# is Smethwick CBC, not far from Dudley. With much collaborative help we can advise that this is a cca 1913 BSA 13.9HP Tourer, which at that time was a re-badged Daimler having just been taken over. Car has the Knight Sleeve Valve Engine, 1912-15.  Three-rifle BSA logo on radiator.

1913 BSA 13.9HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Theophile Scneider Omnibus
Cinema screen grab taken from a French TV film "L'affaire Seznec" , made in 1993,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on a true 1923 story about a high society murder miscarriage of Justice.  -- This shot was taken in relative darkness so details cannot be easily seem but the vehicle is interesting by being a bus having an alligator type bonnet and having a smoothly rounded radiator header tank. So not Renault or similar, but French cca 1914 Theophile Scneider Omnibus

1914 Theophile Scneider Omnibus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Daimler 26HP Tourer
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) which seems to be a hand painted version of an original black & white photo of the Prince of Wales who played golf in Auckland New Zealand in April of 1920 - 100 years ago. -- Edward the Prince of Wales, later abdicated King Edward VIII, arrived in NZ on battlecruiser HMS Renown and spent four weeks there. The car apparently is cca 1914 Daimler 26H straight 4, 4576cc, quite rare as only made in 1913.

1914_Daimler_26HP_Torpedo_Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Protos Model G Doppelphaeton
Another very puzzling photo found unidentified while researching on Internet and saved for future identification. Comes from a Russian site dealing with the history of some of the Venev people who went to the WW1 front as Sisters of Mercy. -- Car made in Germany, in Berlin, by company founded in 1898. Won the 1908 New York to Paris and became Keiser Bill's (Wilhelm II) entire fleet. This is a just pre WW1 cca 1914 Protos Model G Doppelphaeton. Merged wit NAG 1926, but closed 1927.

1914 Protos Model G Doppelphaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a Facebook page. No clues to location. Could bea Sunbeam but which model? -- Yes looks very much a Sunbeam. This one has a slightly rounded bonnet top, has slightly streamlined mudguards and has the smaller streamlined side lights. It also has leather skirt below doors, has air vent and has no door handles and no front brakes. All these factors point it towards being cca 1922 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer.

1923 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926 Hispano Suiza T48 Coupe
Another very puzzling period photo sent to us by Richard Perrin  (UK) "I came across this pic of a saloon car in front of the George Hotel with my mother in the passenger seat. Any ideas of that one please?."  -- Difficult one as it has American, Continental and British features. We think this is probably a Spanish factory version of the French H6B, a  cca 1926 Hispano Suiza T48 Saloon Coupe. Bodies designed to order. One of their smaller cars.  Made big fast luxury cars, and in WW2 aero engines.

1926 Hispano Suiza T48 Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Clyno 12'35 Saloon
Lovely photo sent to us by Bob Oswald (Canada) who says this car make has me foxed. Date: 1931 Place: Woking, England. Wife's father David Fryer is pictured as a 3 year old with brother Eric. Their father Joseph Fryer was later a director of James Walker's Lion Packings in Woking, so in 1931 would have been in management. -- This was then the third largest UK car maker started 1910, machinergunned motorcycles in WW1. Cars 1920 but gone by 1929. This is cca 1928 Clyno 12'35 Saloon.

1928 Clyno 12'35 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown c1913 Two_Seater
Another very puzzling period photo sent to us by Richard Perrin  (UK) "I came across this pic of a car belonging to another Gt Uncle. Only pic I have and not much to go on. It looks as though he had a chauffer."  -- Two seater so chauffeur from front car? Almost impossible angle so none of our experts have been able to provide identification. Tall car with a high pointed bonnet. Perhaps a Belsize, Phoenix or Humber but rear springs not right. Worcester County Council Registration late 1913.

Unknown c1913 Two_Seater
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