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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1899 Orient Express 4HP Phaeton
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars and wondered if we knew what this one was, Found this in a box of old photos --  German car built by Bergmann Industriewerken at Gaggenau Baden and renamed as cca 1899 Orient Express 4HP Phaeton, sold in the UK by the Automobile Association. Ladies were actresses in 'San Toy', a 'Chinese' Musical Comedy which opened in Daly's Theatre London 1899 and ran for 768 performances, then to USA.

1899 Orient Express 4HP Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1899 Panhard-Levassor Tonneu Ferme
Cinema screen grab taken from a Spanish film "El Baile" (The Dance), made in 1959,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --  This is a very pretty little vehicle which is very interesting because it is one of the earlier fully enclosed vehicle for the passengers; guys up front still got wet. Our Ariejan Bos advises a cca 1899 Panhard & Levassor A2 Tonneu Ferme, 2 cylinder 6CV 1653cc,, otherwise a Wagonette 6 Places, or Petit Omnibus. Similar car at Schlumpf Collection, Mulhouse, France.

1899 Panhard-Levassor Tonneu Ferme

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Perhaps c1900 Renault Watercooled
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted by John Davies as
second car in Bootle Liverpool. -- Very unusual radiator and not one we had seen before, so we asked Ariejan Bos, and he had not seen it either. He thought however it was  early Renault but with modified front and bodywork. Same steering gear, frame and overall appearance. Perhaps early experiments with water cooling before rads went on bonnet sides? But why in Liverpool??

Perhaps c1900 Renault Watercooled

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Daimler 28 HP Surrey
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted by John Davies. Likely 1906? --  Indeed another car from British Daimler company founded London 1896 who bought right to use German Daimler name.  UK's oldest car maker, Daimler made a myriad of models in their fist years mostly differing in engine size but similar bodies made by outside coachwork firms. Difficult to distinguish between models, but  likely a cca 1905 Daimler 28 HP but is a 'Surrey'.

1905 Daimler 28 HP Surrey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Daimler 35 HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted on an Auckland NZ page. 1908 visit by Prime Minister to town of Waipu.
Daimler, but which model--  Indeed a car from British Daimler company founded London 1896 who bought right to use German Daimler name.  Daimler made cars for British Royal Family to 1950. This is medium sized car with rounded base to rad, so after 1906, Difficult to distinguish models, likely a cca 1906 Daimler 35HP Tourer.

1906 Daimler 35 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Daimler 35 HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted on the AACA website. Yet another Daimler but which model? Perhaps the bigger 45HP?  --  Indeed yet another car from British Daimler company founded London 1896 who bought right to use German Daimler name.  Daimler made numerous engine size models in period but the overall size of the car did not alter much. Could indeed be 45HP model but more likely it is another cca 1907 Daimler 35HP Tourer.

1907 Daimler 35 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Voisin Delagrange Pusher Biplane
Cinema screen grab taken from a French-Canadian-German Mini Series "Les Faucheurs de marguerites" (The Daisy Reapers), made in 1959,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Drama recounting the history of early aviation. through eyes of fictional aviator. --  The replica airplane in background was built by the Voisin  Brothers in their factory for 'experimental machines' for Leon Delagrange in 1907 with a 50 HP Antoinette engine. Charles Voisin flew it for a full 10 meters !!

1907 Voisin Delagrange Pusher Biplane

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably c1907 Sunbeam GPO Van
Lovely
photo sent to us by Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe (UK) who has a wonderful collection of fully restored pre-1925 Leyland busses. Do you know the make of this lovely thing? --  It looked like a very unusual Sunbeam GPO Van. Confusing registration suggesting London 1906, but looks bit more recent; perhaps reg transfer or delay? We contacted Sunbeam expert Bruce Dowell who suggested probably a cca 1907 Sunbeam 35 HP Chassis. A curiously rounded base to a tallish radiator.

Probably c1907 Sunbeam 35HP GPO Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Vauxhall 12'16 Two Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted by John Davies as 'Motor Smash Towcester'. Not that familiar with detailed changes to Vauxhalls in that era; 18 or A?. -- From our records it seems 18HP was first introduced in October 1905, when the design started for the 12'16. 12'16 then made from November 1906 to 1909. Photo August '08, car not new. Model A after October'08. So would be a cca 1907 Vauxhall 12'16 Two Seater standard factory body.

1907 Vauxhall 12'16 Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably c1908 Halley 2 ton Lorry
Fascinating period photo sent to us by Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe (UK) who has collection of restored vintage Leyland buses. Could this be an Arrol Johnson? --  Humpy not smooth rad top. Owners Robertson Engineering were based in Glasgow and were general engineers also making bits for the military. Difficult to make out from the photos but we feel this could be a Glasgow built cca 1908 Halley 2T Lorry crossing narrows at Glenelg to Skye on 1912 turntable flat bottom ferry Glencoe.

Probably c1908 Halley 2 ton Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Albion 24'30 Landaulette
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) ooking for identification. This one is titled: Vehicles in Cumnock Ayrshire. Could the car be from the Continent?  --  Cumnock Ayrshire is in Scotland and is not a great distance from Glasgow where this car was made. Reg seems local too, 1908. Company became very well known for manufacture of busses and lorries to 1972. Started making cars in 1900 to only 1915. This is rather big plush cca 1908 Albion 24'30 Landaulette.

1908 Albion 24'30 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Wolseley Siddeley 16'20 Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for identification. This one is titled: Vehicles in Cumnock Ayrshire.  --  Car company with a complex history. 
Built by the Vickers 'Wolseley' organization which had just parted with Herbert Austin and appointed JD Siddeley as GM. Name of car changed in 1906 to Wolseley Siddeley. This is medium sized car with rounded scuttle so late just pre Captain Deasy so probably cca 1909 Wolseley Siddeley 16'20 Tourer.

1909 Wolseley Siddeley 16'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Clement Bayard AC2 Two-Seater
Cinema screen grab taken from a French-Canadian-German Mini Series "Les Faucheurs de marguerites" (The Daisy Reapers), made in 1959,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Drama recounting the history of early aviation. through eyes of fictional aviator. --  Lovely little car with a coal scuttle bonnet and one of a number of makes with a bulkhead radiator. This seems to be a slightly later than event cca 1910 Clement Bayard AC2 Two-Seater with a twin cylinder engine of 8'10 HP.

1910 Clement Bayard AC2 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Audi Model A Sportswagen
Cute photo posted on Facebook by
Jeannett Tas (Turkey) wondering what the car was? -- This is a well known and much used photo to illustrate the start of Audi cars after August Horch left his company and started a new factory in 1910 in the same town. He was forced to use a different name so used the Latin for Horch, listen > Audi.  This is a cca 1910 Audi Model A 10'22 Sportswagen. Have not been able to find out anything about the little girl but the chauffeur is hiding behind car! 

1910 Audi Model A Sportswagen

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 Turicum Model D 8'16 Tourer 
Very puzzling photo sent to us by
Pär Sörliden from (Sweden) taken in a small town outside Växjö. But coming up blank on car.  --  Difficult one! None of our experts had positive suggestions. Car was pre WW1, bit like an Adler or NSU, perhaps English because of the mudguards, Close. Swiss car from a Zurich company but made in Ulster UK and named Zurich in Latin. This is a cca 1911 Turicum Model D 8'16 Tourer wirh a four cylinder engine and leather shod friction drive. Closed WW1 1914. 

1911 Turicum Model D 8'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 Stearns-Knight Toy Tonneau
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted
by Gilbert Cunningham. The driver was the maternal grandfather of one Bob Snyder . Possibly a 1908 Austin--  Unlikely as Austin had a flatish top to bonnet. Our Ariejan Bos did some digging and is pleased to advise it is an American car manufactured in Cleveland by company started in 1897. This one is fitted with a Knight Sleeve Valve engine and is a  cca 1911 Stearns-Knight 40HP  Toy Tonneau Runabout.

1911 Stearns-Knight Toy Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 Austin 18/24 Speedily Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
was interested in the vehicle posted by John Davies as 'Austin in Cornwall'. What is the model? -- From the tyre marks obviously a big Austin which had skidded up the hill. Registration T 1934 is a Devon County Council of 1911. Could be the !5HP but with wire weels it is a rare cca 1911 Austin 18/24 Speedily Phaeton, a sporting version of the 18'24 with 5 litre 4 cylinder engine, 4 speed box, and a high ratio rear axle for high speed cruising. 

1911 Austin 18/24 Speedily Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Renault 20CV Torpedo
Slightly grainy photo posted on Facebook by Richard Quinn (USA) having been taken from original glass plate negative. No info on the car or subjects.  Looking for identification..  --  Car not made in USA but in Paris, France. Noticeable that it has full height front door and has angular type of radiator. This points to a cca 1912 car and as it has the slightly bulbous centre to forward body, probably not the 10/11 but the slightly bigger cca 1912 Renault 20CV Torpedo Tourer,  4 cyl. 5,020 cc.

1912 Renault 20CV Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly c1912 Mathis Hermes
Very puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Leif Holmberg
(Sweden)--  Not a positive identification but only make we know with conical front to radiator is the Hermes. Not the  Belgian-Italian Hermes with Renault type bonnet, as they closed in 1909. Not the Bugatti designed Hermes-Simplex finished by 1906. Could be like the cca 1912 Mathis-Hermes 12 or 16, by Appareils Mechaniques et Enrenages in Bressoux, Belgium, 1912-1914. Our Arian Bos thinks it is cca 1915 Opel.

Possibly c1912 Mathis Hermes

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Metallurgique 15'20 Tourer
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew Kostinn from Moscow (Russia) showing a vehicle in the Crimea in 1927. Is it possible to identify this car?   --  Just ! Car is pre WW1. The radiator is of the 'bullnose' type and two companies had similar. Chevrolet from USA, the other from Europe. Wheels suggest Europe. The car was built in Belgium but the body is very unusual and the bonnet has been badly repaired. This is cca 1913 Metallurgique 15'20 Tourer, seen better days!

1913 Metallurgique 15'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Leyland C3 Tower Wagon
Fascinating period photo sent to us by Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe (UK) who has collection of restored vintage Leyland buses. BC 8077. new in 1923, later 'preserved' in the open. He rescued the remains, and a Leyland S3 engine, which went into restoration of his 1913 Barnsley & District bus.  --  Photo shows 1922 Leyland C 3T Tower Wagon with one headlight WW2 masked. BC 8077 was Leicester CBC reg. Has an Air Raid Precautions lable on headlight, with high level Warden directing traffic.

1922 Leyland C3 Tower Wagon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930s cars in Leyland Photo
Fascinating period photo above sent to us by Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe (UK) who has collection of restored vintage Leyland busses. Can we advise makes of three cars in the photo?. --  Car on left 
1936'7 Hillman Hawk Saloon; Halifax CBC 1936; ID feature: no rear lamp on wing. Car in middle: 1935'7 Morris Eight Series 1 Tourer; No Reg readable; ID feature: Two panel rad.   Right: 1937'40 Standard Flying 14 with one headlight WW2 masked; No Reg; ID feature: Chrome rad rim.

1930s cars in Leyland photo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Wanderer W23 Limousine
Photo sent by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify this car in a photo from a fellow Russian collector? --  Nearly impossible, but likely German wheel, double suicide doors, split screen, no  quarter-light, third side window, chrome horn push, and centrally positioned jacking point. Our German correspondent Raoul Reiner suggested Audi or Wanderer, difficult to distinguish as same body, but hub cap suggests cca 1938 Wanderer W32 Limousine.

1938 Wanderer W23 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1964 Ramses 2A Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from Egyptian documentary "Ramses the Car" made in 2008 investigated by IMCDB? --  'Ramses' was a publically chosen name for Egypt's first car 1958 based on British Frisky, but test car broke down, so chose German NSU based on Prinz 4 engine and local body. Made by hand at 3-4 a day:
Utilica; jeep,  Ramses 2 A&B 1963-5: saloon & convertible, B like Prinz. Ramses 3: few made.  So this one would be a cca 1964 Ramses 2A Saloon, rear 2 cylinder 600cc 20HP.

1964 Ramses 2A Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED c1906 Two Seater
Very puzzling photo posted his website page by motoring journalist Michael Schlenger which remains unidentified?  --  ... And it continues to remain so despite our best efforts. None of our specialists have been able to identify it beyond being
typical German voiturette of the 1906 era. The lid on top of bonnet was a feature of several German makes, like Rex-Simplex. However most without chain drive. Citomobil had, but no lid. Also, not seen such bonnet bar on a German car. HELP NEEDED !

UNIDENTIFIED c1906 Two Seater
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