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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1902 Quadrant Autocyclette Forecar
Two interesting photos received from Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) taken in Ceylon of a relative Alec Charles Hayle. Photos from different sources but may have been taken at same time as clothes are same. --  This vehicle is called a Forecar or Tricar, and was made by motorcycle companies. This one was made in Birmingham and is a cca 1902 Quadrant Autocyclette with a Minerva 211cc four stroke engine. These were motorcycles without forks, and a two-wheeled carriage attached.

1902 Quadrant Autocyclette Forecar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly c1903 Panhard Levassor
Very curious photo sent to us by Timothy Martin (USA)  of a car that  looks familiar but one he cannot identify. Suggestion it may be a Napier?  -- Not an easy one but we seem to agree that it probably is not a Napier. Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos has noted the tube for filling the water reservoir, located halfway along the top of the bonnet. Not a Napier feature but is on a Panhard. Subsequent research suggests it could be c1903 Panhard Levassor 20 Hp Tonneau similar used by Rolls.

Possibly c1903 Panhard Levassor

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 De Dion-Bouton Double Berline
Cinema screen grab taken from a Belgian film " Rolande met de bles"  made in 1976 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Romantic comedy centerd on Flemish values versus modern exploitation. --  This vehicle was sold by Bonhams in 2018 for 184,000 Euros (£164,000) in Paris. This is a cca 1907 De Dion-Bouton Type AX 15 HP Double Berline body by Roussille Fils of Bergerac. Body name derives from two railway carriages put together and visiting card in upholstery suggests 1908.

1907 De Dion-Bouton AX Double Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1908 Berliet Sports Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted by Michael Schlenger on Facebook, being a French postcard. --  Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises the car is (almost) without doubt a rarely seen 6 cylinder 1907 or 1908 Berliet Sports Phaeton. There are a couple of Berliet C2 22hp Double Phaetons still arround, but from the bonnet this is one of the bigger ones, possibly the 40. They had a range of 16,22,40,60 and 90Hp Mercedes type cars,

Probably 1908 Berliet Sports Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Dealunay Belleville Limousine
Photo, which we have enhanced, received from Colin McLeod, Dundee, (UK) which is a postcard from a Perthshire collection. Curious barrel-engined car. A Scottish made vehicle? -- No. This is the 'Car of the Tsar' made by a boilermaking company in Paris France which turned to cars in 1903. SP 148 is an early Fife, Scotland registration confirmed by the large rad surround, plain shortish bonnet and large sweep front axle. This is a cca 1908 Dealunay Belleville Open Drive Limousine, poss 15HP.

1908 Dealunay Belleville Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1908 Horch Landaulette
Puzzling photo received from Par Sorlinden (Sweden) featured on Antique automobile club of Sweden's website. The registration number A996 was registered 8th September 1910 in Stockholm, but the manufacturer is not noted. --  First reaction to the logo is International Harvester but nothing else fits for the year. IHC vehicles were of the 'high-wheeler' type.I has seen a similar logo before and our Ariejan Bos advises c1908 Horch Landaulette of which few in Sweden before WW1.

c1908 Horch Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on the photo which has the seal of Will Cameron, Dunedin, on it so he presumes it was taken in NZ. Does not recognize the car. --  This type of radiator is very easy to confuse with the British Humber of the period, This is also a British car also but one built in Manchester by company stated out as Marshall & Co making cars in 1897. Pre WWW1 was major UK manufacturer. This is c 1911 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette. 

1911 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Withers Tourer
Splendid but very puzzling photo sent to us by Robert Broadbent (UK) who runs a free community Facebook page 'Stainforth Old Photos'. Stainforth is in Yorkshire. Trying to find out the make, model, & year of the car in the enclosed photo.  -- This is a very difficult one because the photo is such poor quality showing no ID details. Also not a mainstream car but two of our experts agree it is probably a British cca 1911 Withers Tourer.  Primarily London coach-makers building cars to order.

1911 Withers Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Humber Tourer poss 28HP
Bunch of photos sent to us by Graham Ball (UK) this one of a side-on car being driven by his great grandfather but no details available of year. Looking through this website it looks like a 1912 Humber 28hp tourer? --  We agree this looks very much like a Humber Tourer. Unfortunately not enough of the car can be seen tobe sure of the model but a rounded bulkhead and the type of the centre of the wheelhubs suggest a biggish c1912-13 Humber which came in quite a few models, possibly a 28HP.

1912 Humber Tourer possibly 28HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Two Seater
Photo posted on AACA website by Saltbush saying any help would be appreciated in identifying this vehicle. A car in Tasmania, Australia, captioned  as a single-seater.   --  This vehicle is a two-Seater with Dickey for two more, -  little ones. It is a British car  made in Coventry. Rad has relatively sharp leading edges, also has slightly elongated sidelights and no door handle so this is a cca 1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Two Seater & Dickey with a 1.5 L engine. Bought by Singer in 1926.

1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer
Photo of a photo taken through glass sent to us by Rhodri Thomas (UK). Perhaps a Vauxhall, spent hours on it. Postcard at White Hart in Llantwit Major, nr Cardiff, South Wales. On windshield is a note  "Llantwit Major - Beach", - two miles away.--  Despite noting drain plug offset on rad, square mudguards etc, original identification escaped me as was looking for something more mundane. Subsequently advised by our sages that it is a cca 1919 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer, 3L sidevalve four.

1919 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Citroen 5HP ' Taxi Speciale'
Photo on  number of websites of motorised Hanson Cab also discussed on Prewarcar website. Suggestion it was an experimental Citroen taxi of cca 1925. --  Our Citroen guru Michel  Gosset advises it is a Citroen 5HP "Taxi Speciale ".  Only three louvres, hence a 1922. Picture is in 5HP book by Bernard Laurent. Horse drawn Hansoms for two passengers and driver above rear, patented by Joseph Hansom 1834. Similar vehicles electric and petrol powered versions in use USA and UK by 1897

1922 Citroen 5HP ' Taxi Speciale' Hansom Cab

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Renault 40HP JP Sports Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted- posted on facebook of the Prince of Wales in South America. Is it a Renault JP? --  The Prince of Wales is in a bearskin hat. Research suggests the visit was in 1925 and it is not known if photo is Montevideo or Buenos Aires. Much digging confirms this is indeed a cca 1922 Renault 40HP JP Sports Tourer. Variant on IR, had 9.1L 6-cylinder, available 1921-2. French presidential car. One won Monte Carlo 1925.

1922 Renault 40HP JP Sports Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1924 FN Open Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted by Michael Schlenger on Facebook. Is it a FN. --  Yes it does seem to be a car made by the Fabrique Nationale d’Armes de Guerre (National Manufacturer of War Weapons) near Liege in Belgium. The radiator leading edges are slightly rounded so has to be pre-1927 and bonnet has 13 louvres. It looks to be a big powerful cca 1924 FN 3800 Tourer, but the FN1300 and 2150 ranges had some nice models.

c1924 FN Open Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Ballot 2LTS Transformable
Another interesting photo received from Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) of his grandfather, Wilfred Eustace Sparling 1886-1944, who retired from tea planting in Ceylon to live in his villa in Beauvallon, South of France.  Photo is notated "The pass at the Col de la Croix Haut 19th May 1926". --  Relatively unusual  French car from maker of marine engines. In 1921 they were persuaded to design racing cars with great sucess. This is an expensive performance cca 1925 Ballot 2LTS Transformable.

925 Ballot 2LTS Transformable

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Morris Oxford 13.9  Bullnose
Splendid photo sent to us by Mike Charlton (UK) of a car that belonged to one of his great-uncles in late 1920s, early 1930s, and the country was England. He has looked on the internet and nearest match he has found is a 1929 Singer Junior, but significant, differences between the two. -- Significant differences indeed because it is from a different manufacturer. The primary difference is that this has a round (bullet) 'bullnose' radiator. This is cca 1925 Morris Oxford 13.9  Bullnose Tourer.

1925 Morris Oxford 13.9  Bullnose Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Buick Standard Six Sedan
Another lovely photo received from Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) taken in Glen Eyre of an ancestor's car that he cannot name. Could we advise make and nearest year?--  The look of the car suggests that this vehicle is American and background resembles Glen Eyrie Castle in Colorado Springs, but this is Hampshire, England. Reg obscured but  looks UK type. Three windows, and rear wheel has multiple hub bolts, so this  is a cca 1926 Buick Standard Six Sedan, cars similar for 1926 and 1927.

1926 Buick Standard Six Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 FIAT 503 Torpedo
Another photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) which he took in Madeira. He was not able to see it in detail and  wandered what the make and model of the vehicle was. --  From shape of radiator and badge, this car is Italian and was made in Turin by Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino. This was a follow-on model to the 501 and 42,000 vehicles with differing coachworks were produced between 1926 and 1927. This is cca 1926 FIAT 503 Torpedo with 4 cylinder 1460cc engine.

c1926 FIAT 503 Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Lancia Lambda Pick-up
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italian film "Auguri e figli maschi!" (Greetings and sons!) made in 1951  where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about three men planning to marry sisters and ask prospective father-in-law to buy them flats. --  This has been suggested as a Fiat 521 but is in fact a cca 1927 Lancia Lambda Pick-up. Recognisable by the tell tale louvres in the scuttle and high level headlights. Could be a home-made conversion, with odd wheels.

c1927 Lancia Lambda Pick-up

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Chevrolet Coach
Another interesting photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) who took it sitting in a cafe in Madeira. He was not able to see the front and wandered what was the make of vehicle. --  Very difficult to tell from this angle but as the bus company logo was on the side of the vehicle, a little detective work on classic busses in Madeira revealed that this is a cca 1929 Chevrolet 17 Passenger Coach operated by Empresa de Automóveis do Caniço, costal town close to Madeira's capital Funchal.

1929 Chevrolet 17 Passenger Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Dunelt 500 Combo
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle posted on the internet and wandered if it was a Dunelt? --  Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises picture probably in the UK, but British machines did command a high price in NZ. Dunelt made motorcycles from 1919 to '35, re-entering the trade in 1955 with a 49cc moped. The one pictured is a four stroke single with the 496cc OHV Sturmey engine with twin exhausts and would be c1930 Dunelt Combo.

1930 Dunelt 500 Combination

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1932 Framo LT 200 Van
Cinema screen grab taken from a German film "Der Traum von Olympia Die Nazi-Siele von 1936" (The Olympic Dream - The 1936 Nazi Games) made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Docudrama about Jewish high jumper Gretel Bergmann. --  This vehicle is one of a number of three-wheelers popular in Germany during this period. Not a very clear picture but there isd a pronounced housing above the headlight and behind the petrol tank. This is a cca 1932 Framo LT 200.

1932 Framo LT 200.Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1936 GAZ M1 Saloon
Puzzling photo received from Stephen Resar (USA) which seems to have been obtained from Depositphotos website which is a royalty-free photography agency in USA but founded in Ukraine. Stephen says this is a difficult one he would like to identify, but the photo site has no information to assist.  --  We can help. The origins of Depositphotos may help because this car was made in Nizhny Novgorod in Russian and is a cca 1936 GAZ M1 Saloon based on the Ford Model B, no spare tyre.

 c1936 GAZ M1 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Humber 16 Saloon
Puzzling photo sent to us by Thomas Pattison (UK). The people exiting the car are his great grandparents and it is believed that the photo was taken about 1938 in Great Yarmouth.   -- Difficult one because the logo seems unfamiliar but the car does not. Out Humber Man, Tony Oakes, advises this is a cca 1938 Humber 16 Saloon. Further investigation confirms from the removable numberpalte housing and the shape of the body moulding below the window suggests available only on the 18.

1938 Humber 16 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown 1945 Pedal Car
Another 1945 photo received from Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) of his two seater pedal car which had just had a puncture and request to Father if he would repair it. It was maroon in colour and he spent many hours pedaling round the mushroom farm. --  While quite amusing, is not something that we can normally help with. Very unusual in period to have exposed inflatable wire wheels and two windscreens. Suggests American made Ford, although Lines/Tri-ang did have  inflatable tyres.

Unknown 1945 Pedal Car
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