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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Rover 6 Two Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo featured on facebook. Photo is labeled Queen St Auckland 1905. Rover? -- Yes  Rover. Clearly visible are the front dumbirons, so has conventional springing, so has to be earliest cca 1906 Rover 6 Two Seater, as production did not start until 1906, - so photo must be earliest 1906 not 5!!  Check on Wikipedia noted another error by showing a 6 on their 8 page !! The Rover 8 had transverse front spring.

1906 Rover 6 Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Baker Electric 'Queen Victoria'
Another rather splendid photo found while surfing the internet in the process of identifying ancient automobiles. Can we help with advising name of manufacturer. --  American car from Cleveland Ohio by a company founded in 1899. One of their first cars was sold to Thomas Edison who designed batteries used in the car. This is a cca 1908 Baker Electric Model V 'Queen Victoria', 2.5HP, 14mph, 48 Volt electrics, shaft drive to rear wheels. Batteries Lead/Ironclad/Edison; range 160 miles.

1908 Baker Electric 'Queen Victoria'

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Star 15HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo  marked Sydney 1920s, but surely it is much earlier than that. NSW introduced number plates in 1910 so guess the photo date is 1910? The two-seater might be identifiable. -- We passed it to Ariejan Bos who replied ' The car driving towards 'us' is a Star, most likely a 1910 15hp model.' The Star was British, made in Wolverhampton and active 1908 to 1932. The 15HP four model was made 1909 to 1913.

1910 Star 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1912 Metallurgique 26 HP Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) has sent us this interesting photo saying 'Obviously a Metallurgique but what year and model? -- Not strictly the case because the very early Chevrolets had a very similar radiator! Metalluriques were made in Belgium and were a very up-market car. 1898 they made locomotives; cars in 1905. Bonnet handle lower position, type of body, and gas & oil lamps suggest a biggish car so this is probably a cca 1912 Metallurgique 26 HP Phaeton.

c1912 Metallurgique 26 HP Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably c1914 Albion A10 Charabanc
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) has sent us this interesting photo saying 'This pic is from the collection of the library at Birkenhead in Auckland but is obviously not NZ. Any clues to make and date, or even location? -- Numberplate looks of the 'British' typeface, 2 letter 4 number,  so could be UK or anywhere in Empire. The Charabanc type of outing was very popular in the UK after WW1, often in vehicles converted from wartime trucks. Probably cca 1914 Albion A10 chassis.

Probably c1914 Albion A10 Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 Aveling & Porter Steam Roller
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID this road roller please? Number is 1373' lettering looks like NL..NE..NI..?-- This is another that is very difficult because it shows the back only. However careful study of the near invisible front suggests a square steering boss housing with a spindle poking through the top. If this is correct it is likely to be a Northumberland  cca 1921 Aveling & Porter Steam Roller.

Possibly 1921 Aveling & Porter Steam Roller

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Steyr Typ lll Lorry
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. 'Can you identify lorry taken somewhere in the USSR. I assume it's not a Soviet lorry though it looks like Ya-3'4. Is it Renault? --  Not Renault, not Soviet vehicle or one from Yaroslavl State Automobile Plant. Initially marked 'unknown', but further research suggests this is a cca 1925 Steyr Typ lll Lorry built in Steyr, Austria, by company started in 1864 making guns, cars in 1918.

cca  1925 Steyr Typ lll Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1925 Ford Model T Charabanc
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we came across a Wikipedia Website Page called Unidentified Automobiles where they are asking identification. --   Photo is titled " Old Ford for demolition, Amsterdam, 1951."  This is a post-1924/pre-1926 Ford Model T (TT) Charabanc.- What is most puzzling are the front wheels: small diameter pressed steel and fitted with solid tyres. Also a strange rear hopper body with rudimentary seats. Perhaps for agricultural use?

c1925 Ford Model T Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Humber 14'40 Tourer
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID this car parked at Askrigg, North Yorkshire. The car on the right has plate PY 2914. What is it? --  PY 2914 is North Riding of Yorkshire CBC.  --  The picture is very small and a bit pixly, but Humber. The distinguishing feature of this particular car is that the windscreen is split vertically in half and each half is split horizontally in half. This is a cca 1925 Humber 14'40 Tourer.

1925 Humber 14'40 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Daimler Removals Lorry
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo featured on an NZ site but the truck was in England I presume. Make is obvious but can you date it from the plate? -- Yes indeed rather obviously a British Daimler. Photo was labeled 1930s, but the registration HO 6101 had been issued by Southampton County Council in 1927. Although it may have been rebodied later, registration dates the chassis.  Anyway, unlikely 1930s  as it is using oil side lamps?

1927 Daimler Removals Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Jowet 7HP Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please help ID this car parked at Askrigg, North Yorkshire. I think the one on the left is maybe a Jowett? --  This is indeed a Jowett who started out in Bradford in 1906 making bicycles and V-twin engines for driving machinery, and some got fitted into cars as replacements. First own car in 1906 and first closed car in 1926. No registration is visible but this is a cca 1928 Jowet 7HP Saloon.

1928 Jowet 7HP Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929 Willys Overland Whippet
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on a big website on line. Blurry photo from the States and very hard to identify. --  The radiator has crisp edged sides, rather than curved, the headlamps are drum type and back/front wheels have 12 spokes. Hexagonal wheel hubs. Part of the new smaller range of cars, our Mark Dawber confirmed this is a cca 1929 Willys Overland Whippet Roadster

1929 Willys Overland Whippet Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1930 Singer Junior Sports
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) has sent us this interesting photo from Facebook. In the aftermath of the 1931 Napier earthquake a journalist was trying to get in for news and it seems the railway bridge was the only way. Possibly Singer on the radiator but not the other word. Portlock? -- This is a Singer Junior Sports introduced 1926 with four-cylinder engine of 848cc. In 1928 it made 100 ascents of Portlock Hill so model named after it. High headlamps suggest cca 1930.

c1930 Singer Junior Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930 Chevrolet AD Universal Coach
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on a big website on line. The photograph is from Spain. Perhaps a Chevrolet.Bumper looks French. Any ideas? --  The radiator and badge is definitely Chevrolet but the car seems to have been customised This would seem to be a cca 1930 Chevrolet AD Universal Coach, manufactured only 1930. Had wire wheels but front looks pressed steel?

1930 Chevrolet AD Universal Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Standard Big Nine Mk3 Saloon
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo featured on facebook. Photo is from the plate, 1951 to 1956. A well loved car which I think is a 1931 Standard Big Nine - maybe? -- Yes  Standard Big Nine. These were available 1930 to 1933 as Mk1 to MK4. Well thrashed car so some features hidden. The wheelnuts are not exposed on this car, and bumper is gently splayed, all of which which suggests this is a cca 1931 Standard Big Nine Mk3 Saloon, August '31+.

1931 Standard Big Nine Mk3 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937 DKW F7 Meisterklasse Cabrio
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we came across a Wikipedia Website Page called Unidentified Automobiles where they are asking identification. --   This is a photo is titled "Seagull bars the traffic on the Prins Hendrikkade, Amsterdam, during the German occupation. Photo Ben van Meerendonk / AHF, IISH collection, Amsterdam". The car is German, made in Saxony, & is a cca 1937 DKW F7 700 Meisterklasse Cabrio Limousine. Became Auto Union, then Audi.

1937 DKW F7 700 Meisterklasse Cabrio Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937 Opel Super Six Sedan
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo taken in Moscow in 1948? --  Mark Dawber reminded that we had a similar car on Help Page 121. T Car is German, a cca 1937 Opel Super Six Sedan made only between 1937 and 1938, so relatively unusual with the waterfall grille. It has 2.5 litre straight-6 with a top speed of 71 mph. Available as 4-door sedan, a 2-door coupé and a 2-door cabriolet.

1937 Opel Super Six Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Plymouth P6 Deluxe Sedan
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo taken in September 1944 and shows Soviet Guards Artillery Major ? --  American car made by Chrysler Corporation and introduced in 1928 to compete with Ford and Chevrolet in the lower price market.  Emblem mascot, waterfall grille, shape of the louvre and opening quaterlight indicates this is a cca 1938 Plymouth P6 Four Door 6 cyl Deluxe Sedan.

1938 Plymouth P6 Four Door 6 cyl Deluxe Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1946 Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 Cabriolet
Another request for identification of vehicles received from our regular contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).  "Perhaps Fiat with a special Boano/Ghia body. Plate 1946/'7". --  Badge seems Alfa Romeo. At this time model would have been the 1938-52 Alfa Romeo 6C 2500. Pre-war cars had bodies constructed by well known coachbuilders. We have not been able to find a match for this body! not been able to find a match for this body!  Post WW2, the model was Freccia d'Oro,  bodies by Alfa.

c1946 Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1950 ZIS 110B Saloon
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo of the diplomatic car (without number plate) taken somewhere in the USSR, probably Moscow ? --  Car is Russian but based on the American Packard Super Eight, reverse engineered in 1945 by Zavodi Imeni Stalina in Moscow, later ZIL. This is cca 1950 ZIS 110B Saloon, powered by a 6-litre, 8-cylinder engine, similar to the one used by Joseph Stalin. 

c1950 ZIS 110B Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1957 Ford Fairlane Victoria Sedan
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo of the diplomatic car (without number plate) taken somewhere in the USSR July 1957 ? --  Car is American and made in various factories and in numerous models between 1957 and and 1959. This one seems to have four doors so is not the retractable roof Skyliner but seems to be cca 1957 Ford Fairlane Victoria Hardtop Sedan, 6 or V8 eengine options.

1957 Ford Fairlane Victoria Hardtop Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1970 Avia A21 Van
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify Catafalque van in USSR photographed in 1990 ? --  'Catafalque' is a 'framework for coffin', so this must be a Hearse Van. Literal translation of text is " In the last Way". The maker of the van is a little obscure as this is a Renault Saviem SG2 van made by the Czechoslovak aircraft company Avia in Prague starting in 1967 as the Avia A15, A21 and A31.

c1970 Avia A21 Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown 1930s Landaulette
One of a number of puzzling photo received from Eddie Britain (UK) asking if we can please identify cars either owned by family/friends. --  This one is particularly difficult because it is a shot that does not show the back, front nor all of the side of the car. The only obvious features are a coach-built body, a landaulette, with wire wheels, a spare wheel housing cover (closed off), a three-hinge rear door, and headlamps on stalks. Perhaps could be cca 1930 Rolls Royce, Daimler, Humber etc ???

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: JBA Falcon TSR 4-Seater Tourer
Another very puzzling photo sent to us by Kiprop Ng'eny (Kenya?) who is trying to identify a vehicle that has recently been put up for sale in Nairobi advised as 'vintage car unique in look, good for wedding, classy car, very unique'. --  We had initially marked it as 'Unknown', however we have since been contacted by one of our overseas followers Varun Coutinho to advise that this Retroclassic Car is a UK Norwich based JBA Falcon TSR 4-Seater Tourer, 1993 to 2004, based on British Ford Sierra.

JBA Falcon TSR 4-Seater Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown Replicar or Kit-Car
Very puzzling and fuzzy indistinct photo sent to us by David Wells (UK) who is trying to identify a vehicle that has been sitting on a friends drive for many years awaiting restoration. Attached only photograph he has which is  rather grainy but hopefully good enough to enable identification. --  Sorry, this looks like one of many Replicars or Kit Cars made in the 1970'80'90 both in the UK and USA. Some were expensive & exotic, others firbreglass bodies on rather mundane moderns.  HELP!

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