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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page119 below relates to enquiries received during 2017Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1948 Healey Woody Shooting Brake
Lovely photo of an unusual car received from Anthony Sparling (UK) asking if we might know what make and model of car is shown .'   --  This is a well known car, one of only two survivors. This is cca 1948 Healey Eliott Woody Shooting Brake. Hector Hobbs of Southampton ordered 17 chassis built/bodied by others. This one apparently has coachwork by Westland and woodwork by Dibbins of Southampton. 2.5L 4 cylinder; 105HP; 93mph. Was in California and restored in Australia.

1948 Healey Woody Shooting Brake

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Zedel 15HP Tourer
Not sure of the origin of photo but well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while on the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make? --  Swiss origin of company in 1896 as Zucher & Luthi, making motorcycle engines. Moved to France. Smooth line to scuttle so this is a cca 1911 Zedel 15HP Side Entrance Tourer. 400 built by 1914. In 1919 taken over by Donnet producing flyingboats, becomes Donnet-Zedel. Simca 1934.

1911 Zedel 15HP Side-Entrance Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED Buried Chassis
Puzzling photos from Peter Mills and Ash, Gill, Pete and Dom (UK) showing a chassis they are digging up in the paddock. Wheelbase is approximately 120" and track (outer edge of wheel arch/mudguard) is 67". Battery tray is on the inner side of right chassis rail as is steering box. Kickplates amidships. Interesting detail is swaged mudguards.  --  Lots of investigation by experts but no conclusive answers. American? Any thought by anybody would be much appreciated.  HELP  PLEASE !

Unidentified Buried Chassis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Rambler Type 1 Surrey
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make? --  Made in Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA by Thomas B.Jeffery Co originally bicycles, was 1902 second largest US car maker and was purchased by Nash Motors 1917. This is a cca 1905 Rambler Type 1 Surrey. Rambler name returned 1950, though company became American Motors 1954.

1905 Rambler Type 1 Surrey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry
Very frustrating period photo received as a negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) showing a gas powered truck. 'Can you tell me anything about it please?'  -- Negative has a very strong moiré pattern making enlargement impossible. Very unusual lorry with very unusual motive power. Registration DK 336 is Rochdale CBC, so this is a cca 1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry, made in Long Acre, Covent Garden, London; this one powered by coal gas in bag on roof due to petrol shortages in WW1.

1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Ford Model T Roadster Pickup
Another lovely period photo received as a negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID vehicle in the attached photo? Photo is negative and flipped but it says Ford on radiator. -- No background to photo. Transverse spring so relatively easy to define it is a Model T. Unusual body for the period, five sided bonnet, louvres, small bulkhead, so all pre 1916. This is a cca 1915 Ford Model T Roadster Pickup with a bespoke made back and seems to be acting as a hearse. 

1915 Ford Model T Roadster Pickup

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 De Dion Bouton 8HP Two-Seater
Another lovely period photo received as a negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID vehicle in the attached photo?  -- No background to photo. Unclear registration seems to be C 8821 which would be County Council of West Riding of Yorkshire, but no records left for precise dating. Car is French, made by company in Paris started in 1883 making steam cars, then became world's largest car manufacturer. This seems a cca 1911 De Dion Bouton 8HP Two-Seater.

c1911 De Dion Bouton 8HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Leyland 2 Ton Livestock Lorry
Another lovely period photo received as a negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID vehicle in the attached photo? It is a livestock trailer from Keighley but a Burnley reg plate.  -- Pneumatic tyres and electrics. CW 6076 is indeed a Burnley County Borough Council registration of late 1925, which helps with dating this lorry as a cca 1925 Leyland 2 Ton Livestock Lorry. Started as Lancashire Steam Motor Co 1896, becoming Leyland Motors 1907, and BLMC 1968.

1925 Leyland 2 Ton Livestock Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Praga Grand Tourer
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make? --  Made in Prague Czechoslovakia by a company that was started in 1907 by Ceskomoravská Továrna Na Stroje who took out a licence from Isotta-Fraschini. This car was own design being a cca 1913 Praga Grand Tourer, sold widely to Austro-Hungarian forces as staff cars, 335 made. 

1913 Praga Grand Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Standard Super 12 Saloon
Another puzzling photo from Facebook received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) questioning the model of the Standard in the middle; pre or post WW2 ? --  Chrome over top of waterfall radiator, three side windows, solid wheels, and bonnet louvres suggest pre-war 1936/40  12 or 16'20. Waterfall grille post 1938. Twin set of louvers with strip down middle and twin-tone horns suggest a cca 1938 Standard Super 12 Saloon. To the left is 1937 Nash Lafayette and to right a Vauxhall 12.

1938 Standard Super 12 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1918 Franklin Model 9B Touring
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make? --  Not sure of origin of photo but notice on the house says "Cars Washed Polished" and 'U&J Carburetors'. Car has sloping radiator with horizontal louvres, is American, manufactured in New York by company started 1893 to 1934, is a c1918 Franklin Model 9B Touring, air-cooled.

1918 Franklin Model 9B Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED 1950s Microcar
Puzzling Barcelona photos from Luis Pallás Sancho (Spain) of microcar he believes not built in Spain, not Spanish plate, nor Spanish engine.--  Lots of investigation but no answer. Microcars were popular in the '50s with many makes including two (of 7+) important ones in Spain. PTV was relatively more visually similar than the Biscuter Pegasin. Biscooter was Voisin designed but licenced to Spain where over 20,000 made. Bigger wheels so could be a Porsche 356 one-off based on cca1959 PTV.

UNIDENTIFIED 1950s Microcar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Pope Toledo Side Entrance Tourer
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make?  --  Not sure of photo origin but car has a couple of noteworthy futures. One is rear step built into sprocket chain cover, and the other is exhaust driven musical horn, possibly Aermore. The car is also unusual being a cca 1905 Pope Toledo Double Side Entrance Tourer, probably the 30HP.

1905 Pope Toledo Side Entrance Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Phoenix 8'10 Two-Seater
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to automobile historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make?  --  Photo was marked as "Bill Yings car in Majorca". Bit or research advises this could refer not to the one in the Mediterranean but the one in Victoria Australia. Very unusual British cca 1908 Phoenix 8'10 Two-Seater with external tower radiators, as on earlier Trimo/ Quadcar.

1908 Phoenix 8'10 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNIDENTIFIED 1920s Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from from Georges Truffaut (Belgium) of a vehicle he is trying to identify. "Do you have any idea of the brand of the car in the picture attached hereto. Photograph taken in France" --  Looks relatively easy but has beaten all our wise sages. None have been able to give a definitive identification. Probably timber wheels, common in USA and France. My thoughts from the the large diameter wheel-hubs is, it could be Audi Imperator,  or immediate predecessors.

UNIDENTIFIED 1920s Tourer
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