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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1900 Clement Panhard 3.5HP Vis-a-Vis
Rather lovely photo received from Caryl Bowles (Mrs) (UK) saying "I am a member of Gargrave Heritage Group and wonder if you could identify the car in the photo believed the first car in the village. Taken in the Estate Yard, West Street, Gargrave; belonged to the Wilson family of Eshton Hall. --  Quite an unusual French vehicle, a cca 1900 Clement Panhard 3.5HP Vis-a-Vis Voiture Legere with centre pivot steering, made by Adolphe Clement and sold in UK as / by 'Strling' of Edinburgh.

1900 Clement Panhard 3.5HP Vis-a-Vis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 Georges Richard 10hp Two-Seater
Cinema screen grab taken from taken from a French film " Frou Frou"  (A Girl from Paris) made in 1955 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a singer who is befriended by four rich men who try to introduce her to the high life . --  The car is French, built in Paris Ivry-Port by Georges Richard who had a licence from Vivinus of Belgium to build voiturettes. This is cca 1902 Georges Richard 10HP Two-Seater as seen on the Brighton Veteran Run and entered by a Belgian owner.

1902 Georges Richard 10hp Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Singer 12'14HP Two-Seater
An unusual period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) saying "You have helped me ID many postcards of classic cars in the past but here`s something unusual.... A glass negative. Any ideas? , --  We inverted the negative to a positive and added a bit of sepia; lovely photo. Regretfully no registration to aid dating. Square radiator with a round inner circle is a sign of the British Singer Company. This is a modernised  cca 1905 Singer 12'14HP Two-seater,  2.4L Aster engine.

1905 Singer 12'14HP Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Wolseley Siddley Charabanc
Rather splendid photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) investigating a Vehicle from a series of pictures relating to the Whakatane Hotel in Whakatane, on the North Island of New Zealand, --  Whakatane Hotel dates back to 1895 and was by the ferry terminal on the Malata side of the River. The car is British and has three rows of seats, so early Charabanc. Round badge. Lip to perimeter of the rad. A couple of our experts agree it seems to be cca 1906 Wolseley Siddley.

1906 Wolseley Siddley Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Daimler 35 or 45 HP Charabanc
Rather splendid photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) investigating a Vehicle from a series of pictures relating to the Whakatane Hotel in Whakatane, on the North Island of New Zealand, --  Whakatane Hotel dates back to 1895 and was by the ferry terminal on the Malata side of the River. Car is a Charabanc with three rows of seats. Radiator suggests a Daimler and dumbirons suggest a relatively early model, perhaps a cca 1907 Daimler 35 or 45 HP,  Charabanc Body.

1907 Daimler 35 or 45 HP Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 White Steamer Model H
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go ! As photo may be on more than one website we may not be able to attribute the origin. --  Quite an unusual car being a cca 1908 White Steamer, probably Model H. White Motor co made over 10,000 steamers before changing over to Petrol in 1911. Recently made busses to 1980.

1908 White Steamer Model H

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Talbot 25 Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go ! As photo may be on more than one website we may not be able to attribute the origin.  --  This one shows a lovely bay Sumner, New Zealand, (dated 1880 to 1920) showing a small cca 1909 Talbot Tourer, probably a 25HP model. Talbot were British, with French Clement origin.

1909 Talbot 25 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1910 Ford Model T Touring
Rather splendid photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) investigating a Vehicle from a series of pictures relating to the Whakatane Hotel in Whakatane, on the North Island of New Zealand, --  Whakatane Hotel dates back to 1895 and was by the ferry terminal on the Malata side of the River. The car is American and looks quite celan and new, poss dating photo. Transverse spring helps to identify a Ford Model T, no front doors and no bonnet louvres to the period 1908-1910.

c1910 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Monopole 269cc Motorcycle
Very interesting photo received from Stewart Would in Rolston, East Yorkshire (UK), Bike has Hull registration with a logo that he does not  recognise.  --  Lots of research went into NOT coming up with the answer, until Geoff Morris suggested this is a Monopole. Monopole made motorcycles in Foleshill, Coventry from 1902 with gaps to 1927. As this one has no gears and has a Villiers Mk 1 engine, it is likely latest cca 1916 Monopole 269cc Motorcycle. No dating help from the registration.

1914 Monopole 269cc Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Star 50'60cw Flatbed Lorry
Rather splendid photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) investigating a lorry from a series of pictures in an exhibition called 'Colourising the Hutt' - the Hutt being the outer parts of Wellington, the capital city of NZ. --  Fantastic colourising by Brendan Graham. Love the rust tint to the body. Star badge rather gives the game away but needed help from our Star experts to pin this down from the metal wheels to a cca 1914 Star 50'60cwt 20.1 HP Flat Bed Lorry, a la Marconi.

1914 Star 50'60cw Flatbed Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Clement Bayard 10'12 Two-Seater
A bunch of interesting photos posted on the AACA website by Deej (Soudi Arabia) saying his step-father has a sizeable collection of vintage and veteran cars but has not kept detailed records, so could anybody help in precise  identification." --  Good photo of the bonnet would help in dating but from what is visible, the smooth line from the bulkhead to radiator, the small square doors with edging and  with small hinges, would suggest a cca 1913/14 Clement Bayard 10'12 Two-Seater.

1914 Clement Bayard 10'12 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916 International Model F Charabanc
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go ! As photo may be on more than one website we may not be able to attribute the origin. --  This one shows an interesting charabanc at Blockouse Bay, in Auckland, New Zealand. Coal-scuttle bonnet and rear radiator, but this is USA cca 1916 International Charabanc poss Model F.

1916 International Model F Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1917 Ford Model T Touring
A bunch of interesting photos posted on the AACA website by Deej (Soudi Arabia) saying his step-father has a sizeable collection of vintage and veteran cars but has not kept detailed records, so could anybody help in precise  identification." --  Good photo of the bonnet would help in dating but from what is visible, namely that there would seem to be no conventional front springs, that the bonnet is rounded and it has a 40'60 windscreen, this is a cca 1916'17 Ford Model T Touring.

 c1917 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1918 Brinton White Knight
A very puzzling photo received from Richard Perrin (UK) saying "You kindly confirmed identification of a 1910 Gladiator once owned by my Gt Uncle. I now enclose photo of Cecil Brinton of Brintons Carpets. Car?"  -- Was very difficult because car is a one-off built by Cecil Brinton in Kiddermister being a c1918 Brinton White Knight Two-Seater based on a BSA/Daimler chassis and a Daimler Silent knight 2 L engine. See article by  Mike  Worthington-Williams,  December 1988 in "The Automobile".

c1918 Brinton White Knight Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Singer 10 with Dickey
Another fuzzy puzzling photo sent to us by Jason Palmer, Melbourne, (Australia) saying he 
recently purchased this photograph and has not been able to identify the vehicle. " It is obviously a light car, I believe of English manufacture. No similar matches have been located in the reference books."   --  A couple of our experts have agreed that this is a cWW1 Singer. The horisontal seam on the upper rad housing and badge confirms. Reg is 1919 London. This is a cca 1919 Singer 10 with Dickey.

1919 Singer 10 with Dickey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
An unusual period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) saying "You have helped me ID many postcards of classic cars in the past but here`s something unusual.... a glass negative. Any light on the attached undated car? --  We have inverted and tinted. 0ur Rolls expert Tom Clarke advises a cca 1921 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Park Ward Two Door All-weather, poss chassis 58NE, was in Australia post 1930, before going to the USA in 1960,  and later to France still with this same body. 

1921 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Citroen Model C 5HP Tourer
A bunch of interesting photos posted on the AACA website by Deej (Soudi Arabia) saying his step-father has a sizeable collection of vintage and veteran cars but has not kept detailed records, so could anybody help in precise  identification." --  Useful to be able to see the registration plate which looks as if the car came from Britain. If so, registration XO 1344, if UK, is London County Council about June 1923. The car is French, a cca 1923 Citroen Model C 5HP Tourer (5CV, 7.5HP).

1923 Citroen Model C 5HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 FIAT 501 Spyder
A lovely period photo received from Matthew McKinnon (New Zealand) saying "Photo was shot in New Zealand near Christchurch in the early/mid-1920s. The car belonged to an ancestor who lived in the area. --  Interesting photo showing an unusually bodied car made in Turin, Italy, by Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino founded in 1899. This is a cca 1923 FIAT 501 Spyder. The 501 range including S and SS was made 1919 to 1926, 1460 cc 23 BHP.  A FIAT success designed by a lawyer.

1923 FIAT 501 Spyder

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Buick 6 Five-Passenger Sedan
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website by John Rampling (UK) asking if anybody can identify the car in the photo taken in Barnstaple about 1930 possibly. --  Registration seems DD 810 which would be Gloucester County Council cca 1924. Barnstaple is not that far away being near Exmoor National Park. The car is a Buick with the updated radiator so post 1923 and nickel plated, and nickel strip to scuttle. This would therefore seem to be a cca 1924 Buick Six Five Passenger Sedan.

1924 Buick 6 Five-Passenger Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Morris Oxford Greengrocer Van 
Rather grainy photo received from Chris Bibby (UK) of the Bibby Coach Holidays fame saying "This is my family firm's first business venture, am I right in thinking this is an Austin and can you give any details or possible age of vehicle. Many thanks. --  Sorry not Austin but another popular UK manufacturer. Registration is West Riding of Yorkshire CC c1928, so this seems cca 1928 Morris Oxford Light Van modified to be a Greengrocer Van with old-fashioned cab and fitted with a radiator blind.

1928 Morris Oxford Greengrocer Van 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930 Citroen AC4 Berline
A lovely photo received from Michael Stotter (UK) saying "Is it possible to identify the car in the photograph attached? The man in the black suit is my maternal great-grandfather John Henry Osborn and the chap on his right is identified on the back simply as "Jack" who was the owner of the car. Any help would be appreciated please --  A French car possibly built in Britain because Citroen had opened a factory in Slough in 1926. Six stud wheels suggesting that this is a cca 1930 Citroen AC4 Berline.

1930 Citroen AC4 Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Krupp Double Decker Bus
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go ! As photo may be on more than one website we may not be able to attribute the origin. --  This one shows a cca 1935 Krupp Double Decker Bus and a cca 1934 Adler Trumph 1.7 Saloon in Berlin Germany during the 1936 Olympic Games. Note the swastika flags and a Lowenbrau ad.

1935 Krupp Double Decker Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936 ERA R6B Voiturette Racer
Very small photo in my wife's family albums (UK) believed put together by her late father; a Major in the Western Desert in WW2 and connected with the the clandestine Long Range Desert Group. Lots of tank transporters and Egyptian pyramids, and a postage stamp photo believed taken at Brooklands.  --  Brooklands motor racing circuit closed in 1939 so photos must be before. This is a cca 1936 ERA R6B Voiturette Racing Car. ERA 'English Racing Automobiles' were made 1933 to 1954.

1936 ERA R6B Voiturette Racer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1947 Boitel 3CV Populaire
Photograph received from regular contributor Joao Ferreira
(Portugal) asking for help in identifying this car on behalf of a friend. The This photo is showing the late father-in-law in a mystery car taken probably in Austria during the fifties. -- We were unable to identify the car and had marked it UNKNOWN on HP 68. However we have now been advised by Varun Coutinho that he thinks it is a cca 1946'8 Boitel 3CV Populaire, 2-Cyl made 1938'1950 by Automobiles Boitel - Paris, France.  Thanks!

c1947 Boitel 3CV Populaire Microcar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified c1921 Tourer
Very puzzling photo sent to us by Jason Palmer, Melbourne, (Australia) saying he 
recently purchased this photograph and has not been able to identify the vehicle. Magnifying the radiator badge shows script name (not clearly) - like a Coy...??  --  He is not alone. We have sent photo to all our experts and two have strongly suggested a Wolseley and one has suggested a Crouch. The radiator does not seem to suit either, but we have nothing better to offer. Registration is 1921 Salop (Shropshire CC).

Unidentified c1921 Tourer
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