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London - Brighton Commercials:
Date of 2002 London-Brighton Commercial Run ?:  On May 5th.


London-Brighton Veteran Run: 

Date of 2002
London - Brighton Vintage Car Run?: Novemb. 3rd

DIFFERENTIALINFO NEEDED
Vince Gowler has a differential centre section with markings ATA7034PBM BRITMO. Any ideas what vehicle it is from?


1903 DE DION VOITURETTE:
Simon Kirkpatrick needs Carb for above car.         
(now found)


1952 NORTON DOMINATOR 7:

Request from Svend Larsen of
NORWAY for info on Norton 7.


OLDTIMER CARS
:     CROATIA
Contacts with
Josip Jurisic of Croatia  re  local  vintage  cars.


MONACO MOTOR MUSEUM:
Request from Jurgens Welken of SOUTH AFRICA for more info on the Rainier Car Collection.


WEBPAGE LINK:
   GERMANY
Request from German car website babez.de for inclusion of SVVS car info on their site.


1914 ENFIELD ALLDAY:
  EIRE
Request from Mark Bowell for info on selling the car in Ireland.

1952 DAIMLER CONSORT:   
Request from
NEW ZEALAND in valuing car purchased by New Zealand Government for the 1953 Royal Tour and used by Queen. UK Prices for similar car suggest £4-6K, this poss. more.

1908 DARRACQ TOURER:
Iris Mullins and her father in AUSTRALIA are restoring an old Darracq in the family since 1910 and wanted help on the hood and stays. Info by SVVS's David Locket and Nigel Macdonald.

1927 ARROL-JOHNSON: 
Shaun Robinson of Queensland Australia has a 1927 HK Series and wanted to know if there was an owners club anywhere. Extensive searches found nothing. Any help: contact us ?

1932 HILLMAN WIZARD :   
Peter Donovan of Queensland
Australia requested assistance with the  restoration. As SVVS do not have this particular model, was suggested Peter contacts Hillman Owners Club.

1926 CITROEN 5CV:
Francois Clouard from FRANCE was given a derelict 5CV Cabriolet and wanted info, provided by Bozi. Also advised him of Alain Roth, in France, who is currently rebuilding one.

CITROEN 5CV MODEL C:  
Hema Ratnayake of Los Angeles USA saw Bozi's 5CV on this website and requested lots of information on numbers, wiring diagram and construction of floor. All provided by Bozi.

CITROEN 5CV MODEL C:
Jon Beatty of Minnetonka USA required info on where to get bearings for the 5CV dynamo. Bozi recommends  Depanoto  in Nogent le Rotrou in France for all 5CV bits. Depanoto no web.


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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 400,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is the third most visited page on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historic vehicle enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vintage cars from old photographs. We can also help with identification of classic cars as most of us are old enough to remember them as new. Identification of veteran cars and identification of vintage commercial vehicles can be more complex but we have in most cases been able to assist because many SVVS Members are also specialists in their own make or type of vehicle. As some of these enquiries may be of general interest to others, and as some have provided an introduction to other interesting websites, this page is devoted to some of the more unusual enquiries received and the information we have provided. Page below relates to enquiries received during  2001/2 .   Click if you want previous :

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:    cca 1912 Belsize 10/12 
Two photos received from Roger Grant (UK) which were taken at Edrom, Berwickshire in 1913 of a car which had belonged to his grandfather Rev. W K Grant. The request was for identification and dating. The car shown is a Belsize 10/12 two seater, with a 4 cylinder 1944cc engine, manufactured between 1912 and 1916. If the picture was taken in 1913, the car was possibly new registered in Berwickshire. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:    cca 1906 Panhard & Levassor 
Interesting photo received from David Penetecost (UK), of a car driven by his grandfather, with the request to provide positive identification and dating. SVVS's Bryan Goodman identified the car as being a chain driven 4 cylinder Panhard & Levassor built between 1905 and 1907. The AA badge on the bonnet is without wings so this dates the badge as pre 1911. 'Washable' seat covers, Oil side lights and Acetylene main beam.

GENERAL IFORMATION ON THE MAKE REQUIRED:    1914 Mors RX
Interesting Photograph received from Bary Parsons of Victoria AUSTRALIA of a lovely 1914 Mors RX which has been restored by his father Ted. The car was built up from very little and was actually at one stage made into a tractor. It seems that there are about 14 Mors in Oz which must say something for the Oz climate. Not much on Mors on the Net so Barry would wellcome any info and pictures on Mors car history.

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:   cca 1936 Peugeot 301 Berline
Interesting photo received from Danielle of Great Lakes USA showing her grandfather next to a car pictured in France before the war. The request was to establish the year, make and model. Investigation of the photo suggests that it is a Peugeot of the thirties period, a late Type 301, with a berline style body and higher headlamps, so probably 1934 Peugeot 310 LR NP5 Berline, built between April and August 1934.

INFO ON BODYBUILDING:  1924 Ford Model T All Steel Express Van
Enquiry from Shayne from Washington State USA following seeing our picture of the Van on the London-Brighton Commercial Run. He has a Model T 1 ton lorry but wants to put a box on it. We were fortunate to obtain some photos of the original rebuild of the Van which showed the construction of the timberwork being assembled. Informant is in urgent need of a front axle and trembler coil for 1911 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost.

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:    cca 1939 Talbot Lago 
Identification of a lovely car spotted in front of a Tyre Fitting Bay in Boulogne, FRANCE, by Bozi Mohacek who managed to snap off four photos before the owner, who was in a bit of a hurry, roared off. Subsequent investigation suggests that this could be one of the 1938 Talbot-Lago Grand Prix cars which won the French Grand Prix and the TT Races in 1939 or  perhaps one of the 1939/40 4.5l cars. Investigating. 

PRESENT LOCATION OF  FLO 544  ? :  1939 Triumph Dolomite
Colin Rolfe emailed from the USA saying that he and his father renovated the Dolomite in 1953 but in '54 moved to the USA without it. Dad, now 95, and Colin, now 63, repainted the car dark maroon and re-chromed. Dad even re-French polished the burled walnut interior. They often speak of the Dolomite and wonder if it survived. SVVS's Jon Quiney advises there is no trace of it on current Register. Help Please !

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:   cca 1912 Deasey or Sideley Deasey
Mark Masa in Ohio USA has recently acquired from New Zealand a very interesting vehicle requiring precise identification and dating. It is likely to be Deasey or a Sideley Deasey and it is said to be cca 1912. Mark would welcome all information and assistance in what will be a complex restoration project. SVVS's Simon Pearce and ASOC looking into but all help is welcome. See car & bits: www.linkcycles.com/deasy/index.htm.

CALCOTT IN NEW ZEALAND: 1914 Calcott 10.5HP Light Tourer FOR SALE
Sarah Laurie from NEW ZEALAND advises this two seat 1914 Calcott was originaly found in a riverbed on the South Island of New Zealand. The engine was in a nearby shed, used to drive a saw bench. All restored in 1972. Later regularly used in local rallies. Requires minor restoration to engine and exterior and has no hood. Being driven on a Daytime Warrant as the gas lights do not run.  Contact us  if interested.

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Trojan 10 cwt Large Capacity Van
Dated by SVVS Trojan Expert Don Williams. Originally John Graham (UK) grandfather's fish delivery van driven by Albert who lost an arm in First War. Had multiple hand attachments. When driving had a ring on  his arm which fitted a post attached to the steering wheel. When cleaning the van this was changed to a hook. In very cold weather van needed parts of fuel system to be heated with a naked flame to start !!

CONFIRMATION OF IDENTIFICATION: 1938 Sunbeam Talbot 10 Tourer
Interesting contacts with Luis Forteza in URUGUAY who is selling the Sunbeam Talbot pictured in its normal resting place in an underground car park. Luis advises that the vintage car movement in Uruguay is small but it seems to be active there being a good club in Montevideo at http://montevideoclassiccar.com . The car is selling for $13,800 which is a very similar price for a good example in the UK at about  £7 - 9,000.

SPARE PARTS NEEDED: 1950 Vauxhall Wyvern LIX        PARTS NEEDED
Enquiry from Fernado Gaspar of PORTUGAL as to where he could get spares for his Wyvern LIX. Advised by SVVS's Graham MacKenzie , who has a 1951 Vauxhall Velox LIP, that the main club for these vehicles is the VAUXHALL OWNERS CLUB 1903 - 1957. About 100 LIP and LIX cars are known to survive worldwide, lots of them having been exported to South Africa & Australia. Some spares, mainly mechanical, via the Club.

VALUATIONS OF TWO 'CLASSIC' CARS:  Rover 90  and  Citroen Maserati
Tim Homes of London (UK) has two classic cars in the family and wanted to know their general values. A Rover 90 P4 of 1955 vintage would be in the band of £1000 to £4000 depending on mileage and condition. The Citroen Maserati of which 13,000 were built is becoming a collectors item and depending on the quantity of rust and if any problems with hydraulics could be in a quite wide band of between £2,500 to £13,000. 

DISTRIBUTOR REQUIRED: 1935 Steyr 100 Cabriolet       PARTS NEEDED
Request for assistance from Bogdan Coconoiu of RUMANIA, member of the Retromobil Club Romania, who is commencing the restoration of a 1935 Steyr 100 Cabriolet. He is in desperate need of a Bosch Distributor VE 4 ARS 138. If you know of one please contact us. Bogdan is a keen supporter of British cars having a very smart Mini Cooper and also being the President of the Mini Club Romania. Also writes motoring articles. 

DO I BRING MY CAR BACK TO THE UK ? : 1958 AUSTIN Metropolitan 
Kirsty McKay is returning from KENYA and has been offered approx. £2,500 for her part-restored car locally. Maths says she should take it. If she brings it with her as 'personal', no VAT but then she cannot sell it for a year. If commercial import then 17.5% VAT (specialists can reduce this to 5%). Either way shipping about £1500, then Registration and MOT costs. Current UK values for Metropolitan Saloons cca. £3000.

IDENTIFICATION AND SPARE PARTS FOR A 1903/4 DE DION BOUTON
Request for assistance from William King of Sussex (UK) whose father has an original single cylinder water cooled 8HP De Dion Bouton languishing in the corner of the garage (wow!). Chassis is slightly different to other similar models seen and the body was taken in period from a local hansom carriage. Through SVVS De Dion owner/contacts we were able to put William in contact with a De Dion expert for help.

LORRIES USED TO TRANSPORT DRAUGHT HORSES IN 1948 IRELAND
Request for information from an Author in Scotland researching information for a novel and on which type of lorry would have been used in 1948 to transport Draught Horses from Northern to Southern Ireland. Advice from various sources suggested that the most likely would have been a type OL Bedford Livestock lorry similar to the photo, and that tractors of the day were Ferguson TE20 and Fordson Major.

GEARBOX REQUIRED: 1933 AUSTIN Heavy Twelve               (now found)
Enquiry from Ken Wallis of Sheffield (UK) for correct box. One now located in Dartford from an Austin taxi. Suitable sources for Austin bits can be ads in mags of  Vintage Austin Register or Austin 10 Drivers Club, or the Automobile. Also try the  Restored Classics  small ads which came up with Chris Wilkins in Cwmbran but he only had Light 12 and Cambridge boxes. Also try 'Available Austins' or ' Lancaster Spares'.

VALUATION OF VINTAGE CAR : 1932 AUSTIN 16/6 Tourer      FOR SALE
Advised by Chris Rushen in Wiltshire (UK) that his father is thinking of selling their 1932 Austin 16/6 Tourer which has been in the family for over 30 years. Austin 16/6's are quite desirable being at the larger end of the Austin model range. From the photo the car seems in very good condition. Price at this stage is not fixed but likely to be in the region of £12/13K. If interested, contact us and all enquiries will be passed on.

IDENTIFICATION & DATING: cca 1936 Rytecraft Scootacar   FOR SALE
Enquiry from Smita in INDIA on identification of an unusual microcar. Identified by Bozi as cca 1936 Rytecraft Scootacar which was manufactured in London N1, 1934-40. Two models, 98cc(15mph) single pedal control, single speed, centrifugal clutch, solid diff; later 250cc also Villiers, three pedals, with electric lights (40mph). Used as midget runabout, children's car & dodgem car ; also commercial 'scootatruck'). 

IDENTIFICATION & DATING: 1927 Hanomag 2/10 "Kommisbrot"
Enquiry received from Rick White of Atlanta USA requesting identification of photo of friend's grandfather in Germany in the 1920's. Bozi identified car as a 1927 Hanomag 2/10 "Kommisbrot" (Army Loaf) made in Germany between 1924-28, by company better known for their Steam Locomotives. This 2 seat car has disc wheels (so 1927/28) with rear mounted 499cc engine with chain drive to rear axle with no diff.

STEERING WHEELS: Requirement for a photo of correct wheel.
Enquiry from Lee Basinski of
www.pearlcraft.com.au who are restorers of steering wheels in Melbourne AUSTRALIA requesting information on the appearance of an original 1935 Austin 16 York steering wheel. Mike Knowles was able to provide the appropriate car (currently 'resting') to photograph by Bozi and details were subsequently Emailed. Lee advised the wheel was for apparently the only such car in Australia which was originally bought for the Lord Mayor of Sidney to be driven around in.

IDENTIFICATION & DATING: 1903 Darracq and 1926 Ford Model T
Enquiry from Michael Martin of
ballonvillage.com in IRELAND requesting a picture of an 1937 Austin 12 and assistance on identifying and dating two other cars on their very interesting village website. Well worth a visit to what seems to be a lovely peaceful rural community ! Photos and Grafix provided by Bozi and information by  Desmond Peacock, Bryan Goodman and David Smart. SVVS has a Darracq and a four T's.

PRESENT LOCATION OF A 1937 FORD 7W Tourer :  
Email from John Smeardon of  Western
CANADA (ex Plymouth UK) advising his father had a Ford 7W Tourer and wondered if it was the one SVVS's Tony Russell now has. Tony responded that Ford only made 1009 of these cars and only six have survived world wide! Three are in UK, and one each Australia, Canada & Holland. Tony is the third owner of his, so this not the one ! A known 7W was in the Torquay area in 1937.

VALUATIONS OF VETERAN CARS: 1899 Gardner Serpolet & 1906 Krieger
Enquiry received from the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum in Cleveland
USA www.wrhs.org requesting assistance in valuation of two of their European exhibits; a 1906 Krieger K1 Electric Landaulet (£25K) and an 1899 Gardner Serpolet Steam Carriage (£60K). SVVS do not have facilities to provide this service but assistance kindly provided by Bob Dyke of Steam Car Club GB and Stewart Skilbeck of Bonhams Auto.

ASSISTANCE WITH BODYWORK INFO: 1930 Citroen AC 6 Phaeton
Enquiry received from Robert Richardson of AUSTRALIA who is contemplating restoration of a complete car but with rotten runningboards. He requested further information on the Phaeton Body but as the Phaeton is not listed amongst the 14 official bodies for the C6, can only assume the body is of American or Australian origin. From Bozi's records there are no C6s currently registered in the UK.   Help ?

LONDON TRANSPORT DOUBLE DECKER:
Enquiry received from Randy Beers of Colorado Springs,
USA asking advice on purchasing a London Transport double decker bus already in the USA. As the SVVS is mainly a car club with only limited involvement in buses and commercials it was suggested by one of our members to visit www.busweb.co.uk for potential leads and that the British Bus Preservation Group www.bbpg.org.uk may be a good place to start.

1932 AUSTIN 16/6           :   Where to advertise it? Suggested The Automobile Magazine classified.
FAIRGROUND ORGAN     :   Request for assistance in repairs to Ford D lorry on which the organ is.
CHARABANC COACH        :   Request for info where to buy one. The SVVS one is not for sale. Help ?
ICE CREAM VAN                :    Dimitrios Pantelli needs a vintage/replica for an ice cream van. Help ?
1934 TRIUMPH GLORIA  :    Jean Hunt looking for photos. Jon Quiney of TOC was kind to oblige.
BELSIZE BROCHURE        :    Darren found brochure on a 1913 Belsize in garage in Faversham.
JAGUAR XK 140                :    J C F-Lopez from SPAIN wants one. Try Jaguar Enthusiasts Club mag.
HOUSE & GARDENS          :   Magazine requested photos of a 1927 Austin 7 open Tourer for article.
BBC 2 TELEVISION           :   Requested a 1970 Lorry for food programme, SVVS Could not help.
WEDDING CARS               :    Number of Emails asking if any SVVS Members do weddings. Yes !

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The information contained in these pages has come from many different sources including books, magazines,  advertisements,  sales brochures,  web sites,  manufacturers and  personal contacts. While we have tried to make sure that any information given is as accurate as possible, we cannot take responsibility for any errors or omissions. If you know of any facts which are incorrect or any subjects or details which can be elaborated on, please contact us.



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